Starter motor issue ??

[miri88]

Hello, I’ve been having some issues with starting my scooter, I’ve replaced the starter relay and still same issue. I can only assume it must be the starter motor. When i hit the start button it just makes a clicking sound it doesn’t even make the starting noise just a click sound every time you press the button. I assume this is probably the starter that went bad. I want to try to tap it with a hammer to see if i can get it to work or even replace it. so my question is besides the if it’s the starter motor....

1) where exactly is the starter motor? (Pictures with an arrow would be great)

2) anyone recommend a decent one? (Link would be good as well, via amazon or eBay)

Thanks in advance

[Syd]

Have you checked your battery? It may be bad. How old is it (the battery)?

[miri88]

Earlier in the summer, i mean i did have to give it a boost because i didn’t ride it for a while. But the lights are working and they are not shutting off when you try to start it. According to a video online I’ve seen the starter could be one of the causes of the clicking sound coming from the relay.

[Tromper]

Kinda with Syd on this one.
The battery can run the lights, but not have enough to crank properly.

The clicking is usually not quite enough juice hitting the solenoid to kick the starter over.
It can be a bad starter just not moving, but more commonly it's a battery or a corrosion issue.
Wouldn't hurt to pull the battery, clean the contacts, maybe check it under load and see if it's just lacking, maybe check the contacts all the way up the line.  One of mine did have a bit of corrosion from being stored ion a porch vs. a garage. I went through and cleaned all the contacts I could see and had a much happier bike (I did get it a new battery too).

[miri88]

I really hope it is the battery than. I’ll try using jumper cables to test it out, should start up than if it’s the battery. I did have to jump start it to start last time before i replaced the solenoid. But when i had to use the cables to jump start it, that’s when my starter was clicking like tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick until the battery completely died than it wouldn’t tick anymore until the battery died to the point the clock on it got resettled. But my issue the way i was trying to explain it was it would only tick once when i press and held it and nothing would happen.

I hope with this response it’s a better explanation. I will report back when i either replace the battery or try to jump start it

Thanks again for the help

[miri88]

So i have replaced the battery and starter relay and still same issue. I think it’s the starter

[Tromper]

Well heck.
Rare, but not unheard of.

So i have replaced the battery and starter relay and still same issue. I think it’s the starter

[miri88]

I know it’s been a while but finally got it confirmed last week, my starter motor was shot.. so toke me a while but managed to find an original SYM in Australia to order it

[Tromper]

Good call on your part then.
I take it you have it up and running?

I know it’s been a while but finally got it confirmed last week, my starter motor was shot.. so toke me a while but managed to find an original SYM in Australia to order it

[miri88]

Nope! Lol haven’t rode it for a long time. I’ve been driving mainly.. I’m still waiting on the part to come sometime by the end of the week or beginning of next week, then I’ll be up and running hopefully

[miri88]

So i finally fixed it!! Starts like a beauty. No issues!

[Tromper]

Woot!!

So i finally fixed it!! Starts like a beauty. No issues!

[miri88]

I actually had an issue with the starter relay the next day. It got stuck choking even with the key turned off and completely out. i had to open up the seat and bang the starter relay for it to stop from getting stuck choking. I have replaced these before, they are pretty simple and cheap from Amazon. But i can’t find a ‘great’ one so i don’t have to keep replacing it. Any ideas for a good one that will last long?

[Tromper]

I haven't had to replace on to date, so nope.
A thought might be to try to source one via a dealer since this doesn't seem to be a huge issue on these bikes <knock wood>.  Might well be the same 101 part but with cheap parts one of the first things to go is QC, so maybe (if lucky) a more expensive version of same has better QC, & that'll get it assuming there's not something odd going on with your bike that's burning these out.

I actually had an issue with the starter relay the next day. It got stuck choking even with the key turned off and completely out. i had to open up the seat and bang the starter relay for it to stop from getting stuck choking. I have replaced these before, they are pretty simple and cheap from Amazon. But i can’t find a ‘great’ one so i don’t have to keep replacing it. Any ideas for a good one that will last long?

[miri88]

Just ordered it from dealer. $50. Yeah it happens time to time where i get into this issue, a simple knock on it with a metal will stop it from attempting to crank. But I’m definitely gonna replace it just in case.