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General Discussion / Re: Mirrors
« on: July 01, 2020, 11:10:52 PM »
Maybe something along these lines?
https://www.amazon.com/Mirrors-Extender-Riser-Adapter-Scooter/dp/B007S048FI
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1-Pair-Mirror-Extender-Adapter-With-8MM-Bolt-Universal-Fits-Scooters-Sportbikes-/264468776991

Or if you get a slipstreamer windscreen it comes with the  option to raise the mirrors a bit.
https://www.partsforscooters.com/172-83_Scoot_66_Windshield for instance. (check the hardware pic)

There are also alternative mirrors and such in a variety of arm lengths and shapes.

Cheers
Tromper

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General Discussion / Re: 1st oil change/2020 Fiddle III 200i
« on: July 01, 2020, 10:55:48 PM »
Like Syd says...
Go fast is great.
Stop good is vital.

That said
Read somewhere that they got about 65mph when broken in I think that'd be about as fast as I'd want to take a small wheeled chassis.

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SYM Joyride / Re: Sym GTS 125
« on: June 22, 2020, 12:42:16 PM »
This is where I'm at my limit.  I do not have the book on this one.  This bike was not released in the U.S. & I do not have a tech manual for it.

RE: Valves This is likely the same as the couple similar 4 valve liquid cooled 125s from SYM I do have the book for, but it could easily be a bit different, so I can guess that the valves are the same spec, but that's a guess and I'm not the one who'd be out of luck if that's wrong so I ain't going there.  You'd need to look that up.

There are more than a few videos on setting valves.  Your joymax will be a bit more involved since it's going to be a four valve vs. the normal two valve.

The Vacuum system is going to be the seal for the carb to the intake, normally a rubber boot with a clamp on these, & the rubber lines running off the carb for the most part. There are a  couple others, but it comes to the same thing. check them one at a time, replacing them doesn't hurt just be careful so you don't lose where they go.

You'll probably also have a PAIR/EGR system which will be some vacuum lines off the carb as noted above & a hard tube that runs from a reed valve on the valve cover, over the valve cover, that goes to the exhaust.
Those usually aren't a problem, but if they crack, or clog they can cause running issues.

Far as the carb goes, hopefully this isn't quite as finicky as the HD200 carb is known to be, but there are some videos on that as well.
Normally just clean the jets and you're good.  You might even get by with a carb cleaning solution like seafoam, but it's tough to say without being hands on.

This stuff is bread and butter to a mechanic, it also doesn't usually need a lot of adjustment at on SYMs in my experience but it is stuff that needs to be checked. not sure what costs and such are in your area, but it might be worthwhile checking into what doing a run though on that would be locally.  If you do handle this yourself.  I applaud you and suggest you take it one piece at a time and take your time the first couple times through.

My apologies that I can't be more specific on this one.

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General Discussion / Re: 2008 RV250 water pump
« on: June 21, 2020, 03:32:08 PM »
Well heck I'm not finding the full assembly  but am seeing parts.
You can find a parts list here under right case cover.
http://www.symcanada.com/techPages/techRV250.html
There's at least one part here
https://makinaparts.com/lang-en/sym/5912-19231hma000-water-pump-shaft-citycom-300i-gts-250-300-.html
Kinda generalized that after poking around the site...Please verify stuff cuz I didn't look that closely.
It is of note that it does seem to be the same pump as the Citycom uses.  Makes sense of course but nice to verify.
https://makinaparts.com/lang-en/183-sym  gave me a more general list of parts with a bit of tweaking.

Also found
https://goparts.eu/en/genuine-oem/sym/scooter/gts-250-evo/2009/cover-right

Beyond that, if he's still hanging out here, maybe Cam Purvis of scooterseals.com might have a connection. 
He worked with these a bit but they're an older model now so might be tougher to get stuff for 'em his site is all about the Wolf these days so thinking no though. Good sort to work with if he does.  Very up front about costs and availability. 

Hope that's helpful.  Also are you sure it's the pump, not a need for a flush and fill and maybe check the fan switch?
If the OEM coolant hasn't been changed out over the years there's going to be a lot of corrosion there.

One final thought.  I've seen a generic seal & impeller kit for a 172mm pump.
https://www.scooterdynasty.com/waterpumpassemblyforcn250172mmscootersgokarts.aspx for instance

I have observed is that SYM is pretty good about using off the shelf stuff in places where making your own special one would be added pointless expense.

So it's possible that'll fit at least some SYMs, & that the RV is probably one of them, but I won't swear to it since i don't have hands on either.   Your call of course. Caveat Emptor 'n stuff.

Hope all that's at least a little helpful.

Please keep us posted.

Cheers

Tromper

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SYM Joyride / Re: Sym GTS 125
« on: June 20, 2020, 04:30:43 PM »
Have ya checked the valves?
Checked for vacuum leaks?

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General Discussion / Re: Mirrors
« on: June 17, 2020, 10:02:56 PM »
I THINK the fiddle's setup the same as the HD.
If so there are extenders you can get or longer armed mirrors.
Amazon, Ebay maybe even your local scooter dealer can hook ya up.
Caveat Emptor and let us know what ya find :)

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HD200 / Re: Fixable?...See pictures
« on: June 14, 2020, 03:39:31 PM »
Ditto that, & I even have 5k+ on a Dayco no issues so far.
I also have 3 bando OEM belts I replaced that are well within spec and I'd reuse without hesitation.
Definitely something odd going lie that and that badly.  It does look like you should be able to chip the debris out of the splines, but sounds like ya tried. 
I'd be tempted to try a little heat (don't want to ruin any tempering) or even cold to see if that'd cause the debris to loosen a bit, but that's a very much at your own risk kinda thing; albeit ya ain't got much to lose here.

If ya decide to part it out lemme know.

Either that was the wrong belt, or some cheap Chinese clone or not installed properly.
While I replace the belt at 5K miles there are plenty of people who run them 12K plus miles. Normally they start to stretch or slip before they just break.
That shop owes you a new scoot. See if you can find any kind of markings on it.


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General Discussion / Re: CruiSYM 300
« on: June 14, 2020, 03:32:26 PM »
If it's structured the same way as the rear is on the HD, & I suspect it is, the corrosion can get over a wide area. 
The folks who got mine off commented it was a true PITA, & came down to just plain lots of force and soaking it with appropriate solutions.  Which is pretty much what I had to do to remove the one on the red one.   Having had the blue one's rear off i could see where I needed to whack it and where to use some penetrating oil.  I haven't had a problem with either since then.

Hello Tromper, why I could not get the rear wheel off still baffles me. At least hearing that someone else had the same trouble with a Sym makes me feel a little better. That is the first time in thirty years that I have let someone else do any work on any bike I have owned.

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HD200 / Re: Fixable?...See pictures
« on: June 13, 2020, 12:28:09 AM »
Dang that looks messy.

If that's metal in the splines like ya note then I'd be inclined to fix it by replacing it.
Unfortunately that's pretty involved.  Not something I've done personally, so I'd probably check to see what a shop would charge & if not too extravagant pay for it. I'd also ask 'em about other rebuild items while they have it open as well.

If that's too much $$ and I had the time I'd dig into it, or get different bike if I couldn't dig up a used motor (these aren't that common but you could get lucky).

How many miles on the belt when it blew?
Was that a Bando/OEM or ?

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General Discussion / Re: CruiSYM 300
« on: June 12, 2020, 11:38:57 PM »
Glad you're back up and running Sy.
No clue as to what's reasonable for installs in your neck of the woods.
Seems to run $40-$50 with the wheel off the bike around here, so if costs are similar a bit extra for them taking it off seems reasonable.
I had someone else get the rear off the blue HD the first time around.  It was very stuck.  Since then I have no major problems taking it off.
The red one (mostly used by wife) was stuck but I did get it to concede with a large rubble mallet and curses in a couple different languages.

I got a phone call at three p.m. Telling me my bike was ready. New tyre fitted, and they say no problems. Anyway bike is back that is all i care about. Normally when i take the wheel off and have a new tyre fitted it costs 63, the dealer charged me 111. I suppose that is resonable. The tyre size is pretty common on a lot of scooters in the UK, it was the make i was not happy with.

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General Discussion / Re: CruiSYM 300
« on: June 12, 2020, 11:58:46 AM »
Well heck.  Annoying enough.  I suspect it wasn't on their agenda either if you're going to leave it there. 
Dealers (around here/heavily urbanized) don't like to keep extra bikes around since space is at a premium.

I'm guessing the tire size isn't real common in your area?

I took the Sym to the dealers yesterday, it was booked in because I could not remove the rear wheel. I arrived,as arranged three weeks ago, at nine a.m.  The dealer said the wrong tyre has been sent, so it could take a couple of days for the correct tyre to arrive, this, despite me having told him the tyre I wanted just four days ago. I now have to wait for them to contact me when my bike is ready.

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Sym Symphony / Re: Looking for service manual for Symphony 125/200 st
« on: June 07, 2020, 12:00:27 PM »
Whoops.  Misread it thought that was the Symphony

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General Discussion / Re: CruiSYM 300
« on: June 04, 2020, 10:57:24 PM »
Sounds fun.
I've always appreciated popular places when they're deserted.

On Wednesday it was raining slightly, so I had my run to the coast. After the high temperatures we have been having recently it was a pleasant ride, I don't mind a bit of rain, recently parking here was a little crowded, but Wednesday only me here. A cup of tea, a biscuit and a nice cigar, then a pleasant ride home.

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General Discussion / Re: RV 250
« on: May 26, 2020, 10:54:25 AM »
Check the kickstand switch.
It might be sticking.

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