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Title: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on March 24, 2018, 12:18:12 PM
I have just joined this forum. I am considering buying a Cruisym300. I have visited several SYM dealers and sat on the bike in question, but, no one will offer a test ride. One dealer contacted SYM UK and was told no demo bikes available, I am a mature owner and currently ride a Silverwing 600 (my second one) I average 10,000mls a year and ride all year round. I was looking for a second bike as I recently got rid of my Burgman 400 that was seventeen years old. I always do my own servicing.I wondered if any one has a CruiSYM300 and could comment on, reliability, comfort etc. any information would be helpful
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Syd on March 24, 2018, 05:31:58 PM
we don't see the CruiSYM here in the colonies, but where I live you can't get test rides from dealers either. Any brand dealer.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Tromper on March 24, 2018, 08:52:13 PM
We can usually get a test ride around here, but you break it you buy it pretty much (or fix it like new).
Closest thing we get to the Cruissym is the Citycom.  Looks like a similar if not the same motor but different lay out.
Personally I'd love to try that too, but the local dealer doesn't stock it & won't order one without a deposit..good towards stuff at his store if ya don't buy it, but still $$.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on March 27, 2018, 06:21:31 AM
I have found a dealer that has a pre registered SYM 300i and is going to let me have a test ride. He is thirty miles away but, because bike is pre  registered it is offered at a thousand pounds less than unregistered bikes. It is still new with no mileage.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Tromper on March 27, 2018, 06:29:02 AM
Sounds great.  Let us know whatcha think?
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on April 05, 2018, 10:24:17 AM
Went for my test ride,as arranged, whoever I spoke. to on the phone had not told service dept to get bike ready, so no test ride. Dealer is thirty miles away. Not too upset as a lovely day and a nice ride. I did test ride a Burgman200, but much too small for me, although great engine. They will arrange another date for test ride, as they knw I have the cash.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on May 02, 2018, 10:45:35 AM
After much thought, and sitting on a cruiSYM 300 I have placed an order for one today. It will take a couple of weeks before i can take delivery. If any one is interested knowing how it performs, or my opinions of it  I will be happy to let them know
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Tromper on May 02, 2018, 09:22:23 PM
Sounds great Sy, take 'er out for a run and write up a review.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: baldeagle7470 on May 08, 2018, 09:39:09 AM
Sylar,another newbie here and picking mine up tomorrow so will report back.
The bike I tried was three months old and had done nearly 5000 kms.
It had some scratches here and there and I discovered afterwards it was a pizza delivery bike  ::)
Anyway the ride was good,front brake juddered so I guessed hard usage but a very comfortable ride,brisk,handled well,loads of room for two big ‘ens and seemed to tick all the boxes,finish seemed ok,cigar lighter plus usb in the glovebox,nice space under the seat which had a good stay strut and an automatic light in the compartment.Five year guarantee seems a good idea or 100,000 kms so will wait and see.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: baldeagle7470 on May 08, 2018, 01:24:50 PM
Should have said,chose a new one!!
They wanted only €500 less than the new price so seemed a no brainer!
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on May 09, 2018, 11:43:08 AM
Hello baldeagle 7470.  Where are you located, I am in Bolton in Lancashire England.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: baldeagle7470 on May 09, 2018, 10:44:30 PM
Hi Sylar,
Well I live in the Alentejo in Portugal,halfway between Lisbon and the Algarve.
Born in London and did a lot of despatch riding there.Calmer life now retired and no filtering needed in our traffic light corner of the world.
The Portuguese are crazy drivers though!
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on May 18, 2018, 04:21:27 PM
I took delivery of my Cruisym300 on Wednesday 16/5/18. Having done 170 kilometers  up to now. First impressions are good, I think  i made a good buy. Engine is Lively and responsive, riding position is excellent being able to see just over the screen. One drawback, when putting fuel in it takes ages very very slow filler.looking forward to running it in properly, keeping below 50mph for now.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on May 26, 2018, 12:13:59 PM
Now Saturday 26/5/18. Been riding most days to "Run" everything in. Mileage now at 750km. Phoned the dealer to arrange first 1000km service, said would ring me back to arrange, two hours later no call. Is it any wonder I never use dealers for servicing. All that needs doing is, engine oil change, final drive oil change, it doesn't even have an oil filter. It would take me about an hour to do both. Quoted price for this 1000km service is £125
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Tromper on May 26, 2018, 04:54:07 PM
I suspect there should be a valve check in there too Sy.
Doubtless not the end of the world, but should be done.

Now Saturday 26/5/18. Been riding most days to "Run" everything in. Mileage now at 750km. Phoned the dealer to arrange first 1000km service, said would ring me back to arrange, two hours later no call. Is it any wonder I never use dealers for servicing. All that needs doing is, engine oil change, final drive oil change, it doesn't even have an oil filter. It would take me about an hour to do both. Quoted price for this 1000km service is £125
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on May 27, 2018, 03:10:11 AM
Well I have a Silverwing600 bought  new in 2014 that now has 37530 mls up. I did the first 600ml service and every service since. My previous Silver wing I did 40000mls on l checked  valves and they never needed any adjustment. In 600mls I doubt very much any valve adjustment will be needed. If not for the warranty I would never consider letting anyone touch any two wheeler of mine.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on May 28, 2018, 02:13:43 AM
I think checking the valve clearance is one reason a lot of people opt for dealer servicing. After 600 ml I very much doubt valves need adjusting. I usually check valves after 6-7 thousand miles, and they rarely need  adusting. I am  leaning towards my usual practice of doing everything myself, that way I know everything has been done correctly
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Tromper on May 28, 2018, 03:30:04 AM
Last couple bikes I picked up new enough to be in break in wanted valves in first 1k miles, after that they've been pretty stable.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on June 22, 2018, 11:42:13 AM
Did the oil change in the Engine, and final drive. Most of the time was waiting for the oil to drain. Must be the easiest oil change I have ever done, took about half an hour. Checked all things needed including valves. Less than an hour. Total cost, engine 1 ltre of oil about £10 160mm oil in final drive less than £3, Dealer wanted £125.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Tromper on June 22, 2018, 11:45:39 AM
Sounds good Sy.

About par for the course around here.  I pretty much do anything I can with basic tools.  Beyond that it's more of a case by case thing.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on June 28, 2018, 12:00:01 PM
The Cruisym 300 is running in nicely. Very smooth engine and quick response acceleration. Happy cruising at 50/60 MPH. One or two niggles. Speedo in KM not Miles. 24 hr clock instead of twelve hour. I found that the slow filler was not a slow filler, in the fuel tank is an anti syphon device and you need to put the filling pipe in and push against the anti syphon which is held against a spring,then, filling is easy. It seems to average 85 MPG.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Tromper on June 28, 2018, 12:24:13 PM
That's be about 70mpg U.S. as I recall.
Miles vs. KM?  Thought the UK was metric?  You still using English measures for your roads?

The Cruisym 300 is running in nicely. Very smooth engine and quick response acceleration. Happy cruising at 50/60 MPH. One or two niggles. Speedo in KM not Miles. 24 hr clock instead of twelve hour. I found that the slow filler was not a slow filler, in the fuel tank is an anti syphon device and you need to put the filling pipe in and push against the anti syphon which is held against a spring,then, filling is easy. It seems to average 85 MPG.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on June 28, 2018, 04:27:00 PM
To diehards like me metric is alien. I grew up with imperial measures and Pounds shillings and pence. We still use miles for distances, and I measure in feet and inches. Maybe when we get out of the EU we can get back imperial. I noticed that aircraft still travel at 30000 feet. I also use gallons not litres, but I have buy stuff in litres.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on July 09, 2018, 02:23:36 AM
To anyone still interested. I now have1918km on the Sym. I have been using it instead of my Silver wing. The more I ride it ,the more I like it. It now cruises happily at 60mph and will top 80mph with more to spare. I average 85mpg. After doing the oil changes at 1000km, the engine fault light came on, I knew there was nothing wrong with the engine  so ignored it, after about a week the light went out and has stayed out. It handles very well and can be thrown into the curves with confidence. Storage under the seat is very good and there is no need for a top box. It has been more comfortable to ride in this hot weather, than the Silver wing, but I have ordered a larger screen , for the winter months as I ride all year round.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Tromper on July 09, 2018, 09:56:29 AM
Sounds nice SY.
Glad it's working out for you.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on July 13, 2018, 11:16:22 AM
Is there only me and you on this site Tromper? twice someone asks questions and twice I offer advice and no replies, no thanks, no comments even, never been on a site like this before.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Syd on July 13, 2018, 03:59:04 PM
Thanks, Sylar  ;D
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Tromper on July 14, 2018, 12:33:47 AM
Comes and goes Sy.
There are some true stalwarts and the occasional new person so it's quiet but not dead yet.

SYM really hasn't been that active in the U.S. for a number of years so folks have moved on and old bikes have worn out & been replaced with other marques.

I really do wish it were otherwise, but I can't recall the last time I saw an event from any manufacturer promoting scooting, & it's been a few years since I've seen an advert on the TV from anyone either.

The market's down over here & the manufacturers must like it that way.  You see the occasional billboard for cruisers and sport bikes around here, but the 2 wheel culture is not what it is in Europe.

Is there only me and you on this site Tromper? twice someone asks questions and twice I offer advice and no replies, no thanks, no comments even, never been on a site like this before.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on July 14, 2018, 11:53:51 AM
So is this site for USA owners? I know my Cruisym 300 has only just become available in the UK. I think it was only brought out in 2017. I thought there maybe one or two others that had bought this bike, and maybe we could learn from one another as we use it, as the handbook is nearly useless for information. As someone that has had motorcycles( for over fifty years) and since 2009  Maxiscooters and always does their own servicing I might have had some useful input, I've just done a 200km ride  today and did 190km yesterday. Maybe I should wait a few months to see if anyone else joins, it's just that on other websites when someone offers advice they at least get a reply whether positive or negative. I'll hang around a little longer.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Syd on July 14, 2018, 04:25:13 PM
It's not just the forum for the US, all are welcome.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Tromper on July 14, 2018, 06:37:05 PM
Yep.  It's open to all, & we have  folks from all over.  Australia, the UK, Portugal, Thailand & others as I recall, but pretty much English speakers of some variety or other for the vast majority.

That said; although I know SYM is huge worldwide, & there are more than a few countries where English is a primary language, the majority (back when I joined) were in the U.S., & the lack of folks there is about what I can speak to as part of why it seems to have quieted down.

Thus when you ask about the CruisSYM quite a few of us don't have direct experience but are willing to help where we can.

It's not just the forum for the US, all are welcome.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on September 15, 2018, 12:33:45 PM
5,106 km up time for oil change. I have been using the SYM as my main bike since buying it in late MAY. I really am very impressed with it. I have been riding for over 53 years but the SYM puts a smile on my face every time I ride. It cruises smoothly at 50/60mph. it averages 90mpg. it is light and agile in the curves and acceleration is surprisingly quick. I have never ridden on Maxxi tyres before up to now I have no complaints, led lights are very clear and I feel I can be seen very well, important now winter is coming. Looking forward to many more good rides
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: donjack on September 27, 2018, 09:53:56 AM
sylar, glad to here you're still loving it!! i'm the same with my maxsym! absolutely love it!!
i've just noticed that you are in Bolton, not a million miles away from me in lovely Lancaster!!
we might have to have a mini meet to compare notes etc!! 
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on October 02, 2018, 12:27:11 PM
Been in Spain on Hols for last ten days,just got back. Yes I really enjoy the Cruisym, I normally visit Glasson Dock on Sundays (weather permitting), and have a run to Southport most Wednesdays. I have just replaced the Brake fluid in the Silverwing and fitted new pads,so i will probably be riding that to bed things in for a little while.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on October 05, 2018, 11:44:37 AM
I intend to ride out to Knott End Saturday ( on the SYM) weather permitting, I usually arrive around one o'clock or half past and stay an hour. On Sunday I will be in Glasson dock on the Silverwing about two clock arrive and again stay an hour again weather permitting.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on October 11, 2018, 12:25:16 PM
Our weather in the the UK is getting more bewildering. On Sunday (riding the Silverwing) I had heated vest and heated handlebar grips on. On Wednesday at Southport, it was in the seventies, last week here, were three bikes and me. This week because of the sun at least twenty bikes and two Burgman 650's. My Silverwing still got most attention, how much more attention if, I had come on the Cruisym?.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on October 14, 2018, 11:58:03 AM
As I Ride all year around I bought a larger screen for my SYM. Only trouble was it was too high, I could see through the screen but not over it. It is made by Isotta in Italy. So I cut off about five inches and I can now see over it.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on October 22, 2018, 11:34:10 AM
Had a few rides now with my "winter screen" fitted, it is okay and does offer a little more protection from the wind and rain, only downside is, I now get 87 mpg, instead of my regular 90mpg.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: donjack on October 28, 2018, 11:12:04 AM
hello there sylar, sorry for not responding to your posts, for some reason or other i don't seem to get notifications of replies to this thread even though i check the 'notify me of replies' box, that and memory problems (due old age!!)  ;D
we will have to meet up at Glasson dock one of these Sundays, only problem is that i work shifts that include Sundays so we'll have to time it right!!
glad your winter screen is ok, i have a 'X-creen touring' fitted to mine, it does a great job of wind deflection over the head, the only problem i have now is my hands but i am thinking along the lines of hand guards, i had a set on my old downtown and they were brilliant!
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on October 28, 2018, 01:13:49 PM
Hi Donjack, I was at Glasson dock today, and last Sunday( in the rain). I have heated handlebar grips on my Silverwing and on the Sym. I also use handlebar muffs on both bikes, my theory is, the wind has to hit the muffs first, and so shelters your gloves from the weather. I also use a heated Keiss vest for winter riding. I see from your other post you put in the new Pulleys. I fitted DR Pulley sliders in my last Silverwing and in this one, improved acceleration is noticeable.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on November 15, 2018, 01:41:03 PM
Update on the Cruisym. Been using the sym at least twice a week. The larger screen I got was, I decided, not doing any good, so I put the original screen back on. Handles really well on the wet roads very impressed with the Maxi tyres, strong winds tend to slow me down a bit, but I never liked the wind, rather have rain. Glad I had heated handlebar grips fitted nice and warm on lowest setting,but, I also use handlebar muffs as well. Up to 7,000 Km now  and no problems.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on December 06, 2018, 01:10:22 PM
With the rain everyday recently I have not been able to get out riding, but today,come hell or high water, I was going for a ride. Set out on the Sym, it was drizziling, not too bad as I had all my wet weather gear on. Went for 30+ miles, stopped and had a cup of tea and a biscuit, and a cigar. Set off back, raining slightly heavier,  not too bad . It got worse, heavy rain all the way home another 38miles. Very impressed with the SYM really torrential rain and ran sweet as a nut. Funny thing is, I really enjoyed the ride. Going to the Canary islands on Tuesday for ten days so that was my last chance for a ride.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on December 31, 2018, 12:09:07 PM
I like to go for a ride on the last day of the year, and on the first day of the new year. Went out today for a short run about fifty miles, still over the country lanes, as the weather here is very mild really, at fifty degrees F. Tomorrow I plan a run to the coast. Normally on New Years Day there is a gathering of two wheelers in Southport, weather permitting.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Tromper on December 31, 2018, 02:15:26 PM
Sounds fun Sy.
Looking at upper 30's maybe 40f today, but clear.
I may sneak out for a bit, perhaps grab a tag or two, but that's about it.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on January 01, 2019, 12:51:36 PM
I went for my ride to the coast, as planned ( I usually make this trip every week). On the way, there was a group of riders on Harleys about ten to fifteen of them. On the dual carriageway the speed limit is fifty mpg, but, the are several roundabouts. On the roundabouts I caught the group up and passed them, it seems I can go faster around them than Harleys can. On reaching the town limits I kept to the town main road. The leader of the Harleys took them on the coastal road.About two miles further on I saw them waiting to join the main road I was on. I was parked up when they arrived. A very nice day a most enjoyable ride. I might do the same again tomorrow.


Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on January 04, 2019, 12:58:42 PM
I went again the following day. On the first day of the year there were about fifty- sixty bikes. The second day I went just two and me.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Tromper on January 04, 2019, 03:23:11 PM
We started the year with some gnarly storms, but I've been commuting a bit.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on January 14, 2019, 01:07:07 PM
After a wet weekend I went for a short run today just, what I call, "around the block" I think about  forty miles. Tomorrow looks more promising, so I will do my trip to the coast (Southport). The heated vest I have, I have not needed plugged in, as it is still very mild in the North West averaging 46F. I do put the heated grips on low as it does get colder after about 3pm. The SYM has grown on me and is a real pleasure to ride. I average 50mph and still getting around 90mpg.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: patkin on January 16, 2019, 10:30:20 AM
I test rode a SYM CruiSYM 300 on Friday, I have  BMW R1200GS, a Harley and finally a Honda PCX125 that Ive owned for two years and commute on daily rain or shine with a 24 mile round trip. I'm looking to replace the PCX.

First of all, I love the positioning of the mirrors, being on the fairing rather than on the handlebars and the fact that you can fold them away in the garage. The first impression you get is how roomy the bike is, particularly in the feet forward position, this makes riding an absolute dream. I took the bike up to an indicated 80mph and there was no drama, just stable and comfortable progress. The screen does a good job, Im 5'10" and it was in the low position. The larger wheels and heavier weight do make the bike feel a bit ponderous compared with the PCX, but that surely is to be expected and the stability on the road kind of compensates for that. The brakes were superb, particularly the linked brakes operated by the left lever. I dont really like the boxed in handlebars, I have a Ride dashcam that needs a tubular mount although I understand there is a place on the nose fairing that accomodates a camera. I was happy to see that the bike is louder from the exhaust than the PCX which is a bonus in traffic. I dont like the halogen headlights, at this price they should be LED all round, I dont think the LED DLRs are very bright at all. The underseat storage is awesome and the hydraulic strut and light, a nice touch of luxury. I also cant get any information on connectability, some of the foreign videos show the dash linking by bluetooth to your mobile phone allowing messages on Whats app and the like but it may have been deleted on the UK models and that leads me to my last gripe.....why is the dash outer ring in KMPH, it makes it difficult to work out the 30, 50 and 70 mph marks. Finally given the J300 Kawasaki is available from at least one dealer at £4000 ish, this is not a cheap scoot.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on January 17, 2019, 01:14:05 PM
One of my dislikes is the speedo in KMPH, it takes some getting used to. Under seat storage is better than my Silverwing 600, I put a strap across the upper part, to stop things falling into the Helmet space and, removed the inside light bulb ( if the bulb is lit without you knowing you could have a flat battery). I have had the Cruisym for six months now and have no major complaints.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on January 23, 2019, 03:14:40 AM
Up to 8500 km now and rear tyre looks to be very near wear limits at just above 2mm. Although the Maxxi tyres are okay I would expect better mileage. I'm thinking I might go for a Bridge stone tyre as a replacement as I get good mileage from them on my Silver wing.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on February 20, 2019, 01:00:36 PM
Just clocked up 9,300km on the Sym. Although tyres are very near the wear levels I think i'll chance it to 10.000km, when I do the 10,000km service. I have been riding every couple of days and very much enjoy this bike, the heated grips and my Keis heated vest have been invaluable over the winter, hopefully spring has arrived now,as it is much warmer. My Silverwing 600 is off the road with an electrical problem, I just cannot seem to pin down. I still have not seen another Cruisym 300, but i am always getting people looking at the bike and asking questions. 
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Tromper on February 21, 2019, 05:47:54 PM
Sounds like it's doing well by you.
What's the symptom on the S'wing?
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on February 22, 2019, 12:55:16 PM
Hi Tromper, Just before xmas went on a run on the Silverwing. About  half a mile from home engine cut out. Pushed it into a pub car park. Fifteen amp fuse blown. Replaced fuse blew again. 30 amp fuse put in blew again. I have breakdown cover so got it home. Fuse covers ign and fuel line. I have had all plastic off. Used multi meter to check voltage and continuity all ok. Visually checked all wires, and found no chafing and no breaks. Changed all relays (3). changed tilt control. Fuse sometimes does not blow until I try to start up, Another day engine will start and run a few minutes then fuse blows again. I really cannot fathom it out. I keep leaving it alone for a week or so and then check all things again, although I really do not know what else to do.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Tromper on February 22, 2019, 03:00:35 PM
Have you checked the S'Wing forums?
https://www.silverwing600.com/t10562-help-fuse-keeps-blowing?highlight=blows+fuse (https://www.silverwing600.com/t10562-help-fuse-keeps-blowing?highlight=blows+fuse)
For instance?
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on February 22, 2019, 05:40:34 PM
Thanks for that Tromper. I have been a member of the Silverwing forum since 2010, under the name "old limey". They know of my situation and are waiting for me to  resolve it and let them know how I did it.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Tromper on February 22, 2019, 06:01:26 PM
Kinda figgered but ya never know.
Heck now I'm curious and I don't even own a S'wing.

Thanks for that Tromper. I have been a member of the Silverwing forum since 2010, under the name "old limey". They know of my situation and are waiting for me to  resolve it and let them know how I did it.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on March 03, 2019, 12:56:05 PM
Clocked up 10040km yesterday. Did the 10000km service today, as it rained all day. Changed oil in Engine and final drive unit. New air filter. Cleaned crankcase filter. Checked and cleaned spark plug. all okay. Very easy and straight forward to service, all fittings good and tight and all parts oiled or greased as needed. Will order a new rear tyre tomorrow,as rain is expected most of next week.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on March 06, 2019, 01:18:38 PM
Well had my new tyre put on the wheel yesterday, so put wheel back on and went for a little run today, only fifty mile as it was raining. All okay, new tyre is Mitchelin city grip as my tyre people don't do Maxxi tyres. This is first time I have taken the wheel off, and although straight forward enough, you could tell all bolts had been tightened with a machine or (King Kong).
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Tromper on March 07, 2019, 12:56:56 AM
Good thing it didn't stick on ya SY.
First time i tried to take the rear off my blue HD I gave up and took it into a shop.

I've had really good luck with the City Grips on both HDs & an S200.
Night and day from the SYM factory rocks.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on March 19, 2019, 10:58:48 AM
Been in Spain last week for a holiday. Went for a "round the block" run. Every time I have done an oil change the engine warning light comes on. The first time I knew nothing was wrong so I ignored it, after a couple of rides the light went out. This time it came on for about 120km, a couple of runs, then suddenly it went out. Is this normal for a Sym?
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Tromper on March 19, 2019, 02:29:59 PM
Haven't seen that on either HD, or heard of it on other models off the top of my head.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on April 09, 2019, 11:37:51 AM
Been riding the Sym as my main bike all through winter and very impressed with it, the new Tyre is performing well and I will probably get a matching City grip for the front soon. I got an auto electrician in today to sort out my electrical problem on my Silverwing 600. He traced it to a short in the loom. He thinks someone at Honda forgot to put a cable tie to keep the wiring away from the Thermostat housing as that was were the wire was shorting out at, I think I will keep the Sym as my main bike and might even sell the Silverwing in the near future.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on April 18, 2019, 11:57:04 AM
Took the SIlverwing 600 out to the coast, for my weekly run, yesterday. Temperatures in the sixties at present. Bike ran as normal and no problems. Took the Cruisym300 out today on the same run. I actually prefer the Cruisym now, more agile(less weight) and just as responsive with same cruising speeds.  I can afford to run, and keep both bikes on the road, so unless something else happens I have a choice of rides once again.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on May 05, 2019, 11:57:52 AM
Been riding the Silverwing 600  lately, but noticeable difference from the Cruisym especially the fuel consumption. On balance I prefer the Cruisym now. Anyone want to buy my Silverwing 600? registered in July 2014 and 40,892mls
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on May 16, 2019, 11:50:47 AM
I have had my cruisym 300 for one year today. Took it out for a "Birthday" run only about thirty miles, but weather here today is in the seventies so, very pleasant. Now done 12,088 kl on it and very pleased with the way it has behaved over the last year. Never been back to the dealer, done all oil changes etc myself.  Never seen another one on the road and that is okay by me, whenever I park up I get a lot of interest in it.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on May 22, 2019, 12:07:15 PM
I took the front wheel off the SYM to have the tyre replaced done 12,100km on it. Very simple job ( not shown in Handbook) one securing screw and then the Main wheel Shaft. Wheel came out easy enough. Took wheel to tyre place ,had new tyre and valve fitted and wheel rebalanced. On refitting wheel I realised the brake caliper was stopping the wheel going back in, so took brake caliper off ( note to self, take brake caliper off first next time) and wheel went back on no problem, now 100 hundred miles to run tyre in, two runouts and job will be done.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on June 10, 2019, 12:00:47 PM
Had a great ride out this Sunday on the SYM. It was a lovely sunny day so I took it for a longer run, through Settle and on to the Ribbleshead via duct. On these country lanes I know very well I had a biker in front of me, he tried to lose me, but in the bends I kept catching up with him ,so he gave up in the end. When we stopped for a drink at Ribbleshead he was very impressed with the SYM. He could not believe a Scooter could take those bends that fast. Maybe my 53yrs experience had something to do with it. We went our separate ways and I had a big grin thinking of the Bikers that underestimate the capabilities of some scooters. Did 143mls and ran very sweet.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Tromper on June 24, 2019, 01:29:58 PM
Thanks for all the fun posts Sy.

Figgered I'd post this just to let ya know that folks do read 'em.

Tromper/Seattle (not Settle..  8))
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: abelinconln on June 27, 2019, 01:14:04 PM
Hello, thanks Sy for the trip down memory lane, picked up my second scoot, Both SYMs, first one in South Korea while I was teaching English to Military Pilots, Jinju, SYM MIO 50, Fun, Fun, Fun, Driven quite a few different bikes in my 64 years. living now in Nanaimo, BC, Canada, Now I have this 2009 SYM Fiddle 2, 6000 km, needs a bit of an upgrade, so far this has been an easy project. This was a Slow, slow, slow bike... will install new air cleaner, new plug, and coil,  unrestricted CDI, maybe a muffler later, better tires. Unfortunately, there are not too many good scoot parts business's in Canada, the shipping charges from the USA can be quite expensive, almost as much as the parts I need... If anyone knows a good Canadian parts store please reply.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Alexhop2001 on June 28, 2019, 12:46:12 AM
Hello to all. I`m trying to buy a phone holder for the cruisym 300, any suggestions? 

Sylar i think that you lost your 5 year waranty for not changing oil and filters in the oficial sym dealership, am i right ?

in 1 or 2 weekes i will be getting my new cruisym in Madrid, where i just moved in :). ( i`m not from usa or england i`m from Bucharest Romania ). At home, i have a Burgman 200, but here in Spain i needed somenthing a bit bigger and comfortable with a lot space under the seat.

Happy to be part of the sym family.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on July 04, 2019, 12:05:25 PM
I was very surprised at how many people read my comments, so thought I would carry on, still out riding most days but, been away on holiday to Spain and got back on Tuesday. Regarding the Warranty issue , I once had a debate with someone from Honda about warranties, I pointed out that it did NOT say it needed servicing by an agent but, "By a competent person". I have never made a claim on a Warranty. A Warranty is what the Maker gives, in the UK we have a Sale of goods act that gives us legal protection when we buy anything a Maker cannot take away those rights.A Warranty is over and above your legal rights so I do not have a problem servicing and maintaining my machines myself. I maintain that if you do all the oil ,filter changes and cleaning as specified you should not have any problems as long as you keep a record of the mileages and dates. I average 10,000mls a year on two wheels and have been okay up till now.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Alexhop2001 on July 07, 2019, 07:33:59 AM
I just payied for my white 300 cruisym, i hope next week i will get it. In madrid the white one is not so much sold, and they have to order it from Barcelona or from Taiwan. The first 1000km, with what maximul speed can i go ? A dealer told me that i cand go something like 100-110km/h
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on July 07, 2019, 11:55:42 AM
As with any new machine it needs to be "Run In."All parts in the engine, and indeed on the whole bike, need to be worn in gradually. Start off by keeping the throttle just open enough to maintain a steady speed, listen to the engine and "Feel" the bike it should respond and feel smooth, don't run it for too long and keep speed around 80km max for short bursts gradually increase speed to 100km if bike still Feels okay. Remember the oil in the bike is "Run In oil" not what you would usually put in. Also remember you want the bike to last a long time so be patient and it will.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Alexhop2001 on July 08, 2019, 08:39:57 AM
Thank you Sylar ! I will keep in touch after my cruisym will arrive ! I hope until friday i will have it, so i can do some miles on it this weekend :)
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on July 12, 2019, 11:58:50 AM
Although there is a lot of room under the seat of my Cruisym I can have trouble getting my Jacket under, as well as my Helmet, when I park up. For this reason I just fitted a small top box, just big enough to take a helmet. I found a manufacturer that makes a bracket just for the Cruisym called SHAD. I have a 50ltr top box on my Silverwing, but only needed a box big enough to fit a full size helmet so opted for a 29ltr box.Looks pretty good and an easy fit.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on July 17, 2019, 12:20:41 PM
I decided to do my longest run ,on the Cruisym. I start off at home in Lancashire and do my "Yorkshire" run, this takes in Haworth and Hebden bridge both historical towns, passing through them over the Dales to Keighley, only the town centre was shut off with road works, it was terrible getting through the town but I did it, then to Skipton and Settle on to Lancaster and my destination,Glasson dock. I come home via Ribchester an old Roman settlement. The cruisym was exceptional and never missed a beat averaging 96 MPG. Total mileage on that run 146
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Tromper on July 17, 2019, 07:21:51 PM
Nice,
I did about 150 on the HD, hitting up some nifty almost abandoned road sections on Hwy 2/Stevens pass in the Cascades the other day, wonderful ride, but it's on the same kid of thing at all.

I envy folks in Europe, at least on the old Roman areas, the nifty ruins and such ya get.
We do have some digs and such in N. America of course, but it's very rarely really ancient sites on the scale you have.  Maybe Cahokia, Mesa Verde, & a couple others off the top' o my head.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Alexhop2001 on July 18, 2019, 07:19:58 AM
Hello. I did  my first 120 km in my cruisym 300,and it runs very nice! it goes very fast at 100km/h without noticing. I will do some long drives this weekend that the next week I can go to Valencia, that is 400 km away from Madrid. in a few words I love It!
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on July 18, 2019, 11:56:09 AM
Well Tromper, I visited the USA many times about ten years ago. Went to Orlando first, for Disney , Sea world, Cyprees gardens etc. On other visits New York, Statue of liberty, Empire state building ( did not like New York), Saw the sun come up in the Grand Canyon and visited Las Vegas,stood in the Alamo and The grand ole Opre San Francisco San Diago . My daughter got married in Las Vegas on another visit in 2000. So you have many places of interest. I have many places to visit nearby as I was born in Bury( birth place of Sir Robert Peel) who founded the first police force. Hadrians wall is just that a wall. I am only forty miles away from the Irish sea and many seaside resorts I have a weekly visit to Southport usually on the SYM. Alexhop2001 take it easy, do too much too soon and you may pay for it later.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Tromper on July 18, 2019, 06:55:55 PM
Heck All I have are live volcanoes.  :o
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Syd on July 18, 2019, 09:16:48 PM
And all I have, in the Phoenix area, are straight roads. I envy Sylar's roads and small cars, and your volcanoes, Tromper (Hawaii? Iceland?)
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Tromper on July 19, 2019, 01:17:28 AM
Seattle.
The Cascade Range is volcanic.
Plenty of scenery around here, twisty roads even if that's your bent, just not a lot of nifty ancient ruins.

And all I have, in the Phoenix area, are straight roads. I envy Sylar's roads and small cars, and your volcanoes, Tromper (Hawaii? Iceland?)
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Alexhop2001 on July 22, 2019, 01:02:03 AM
Hello to all ! I just read this from Sym Uk : All SYM Vehicles registered on or after 1st March 2016 will benefit from a THREE YEAR/30,000km warranty on all 0-120cc vehicles and a FIVE YEAR/60,000km warranty on all vehicles over 120cc if in possession of a full service history and that the enclosed scheduled maintenance is carried out by an authorised SYM dealer or a non SYM dealer specifically authorised by SYM UK. . So to be able to use the warranty you have to do all the maintenance in at sym, oil changing included. I just arrived at 950km, and tomorrow i will go to change my oil, and fix a problem in the front of the scooter. When i get a small pothole it makes a not so nice noise, and it bothers me, i think there is somenthing lose there.

Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on July 22, 2019, 11:57:47 AM
What SYM say, and what is available legally, could be two different things I hope I never need to challenge their statement. You have put a lot of mileage on very quickly Alexhop2001, I did tell you to take it easy, maybe you will need the warranty at that rate. I have just clocked up 14560 km so a belt change will be needed soon and the full service at 1500kms, I look forward to doing it.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Alexhop2001 on July 24, 2019, 08:20:18 AM
I know that i put verry fast 1000 km, in only one week, but i need to use it. I hope not to use the warranty, but it`s good that it has 5 years :) . I don`t know if i will keep it that long. It runs verry well and this weekend i will go to Alicante from Madrid, 900 km in total. I will use it 70% of the time on the highway. I`m courios how it`s the belt after the 15000 km, if you really have to change it or not.Does it feels like the belt it`s a little used, or stil runs like the first day ? Me for the first oil change i payied 85 euro, 30 euro the engine and transmission oil, and 55 euro the labor for 1houre and 5 minuter.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on July 24, 2019, 12:08:18 PM
All servicing is done at certain mileages, the belt change is because you cannot see or hear the wear, at that mileage the Maker recommends you change the belt, so an old one does not break or snap suddenly. Oil wears and emulsifies after a certain time that is why you change the oil when it says. I only ride for pleasure so am careful, and always service properly, likewise I don't dash around I cruise at 80-100km per hour. What you paid for an oil change sounds about right.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Alexhop2001 on July 24, 2019, 11:19:06 PM
I also like to do the maintenance at the mileage that the maker recommends or if not before. At my burgman at home the maker recommands to do the oil, filters to change every 5000km, but i did it allways at 3000km, because i changed it my self and some times at my mecanic, and the belt also at they said to change it 12-15000km and at 8-10000 km i allways changed it, because i was doing more than 20000km a year. The cruisym i also use only for pleasure, and i will use it more on the highway at a cruise speed 100-120kmh ( my cruisym has KPH but also MPH, i think you said that yours has only KPH ) , for work i use the metro :) . All the people that i ask how is the cruisym, they respond me that has the best engine and is the best scooter that is on the market right now.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Alexhop2001 on July 24, 2019, 11:30:30 PM
This is a great video for who whants to see what the cruisym can do :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7iOoaehQ9U (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7iOoaehQ9U)


And another question for you Sylar, do you still got the silverwing ? :)
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on July 25, 2019, 02:40:25 AM
My Silverwing600 just passed it's MOT, this is a yearly inspection that all motor vehicles must pass each year to ensure they are safe on the roads, I have the front wheel off waiting for a new tyre I ordered My cruisym has km as main speedo with mph in the inner ring. There is no oil filter to buy on the Sym, just a strainer in the drain plug
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Alexhop2001 on July 25, 2019, 10:35:24 AM
ahh, you have to do it every years, in romania and also in spain you have to do it every 2 years, and the first inspection when it`s new, after 4 years :). I will write after my long ride this weeked :) .You all have a nice weeked ! :)
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Alexhop2001 on July 30, 2019, 07:46:12 AM
This weekend i drove 1050 km. I didn`t know that Spain is 70% on mountains and hills. Before moving in Madrid, I thought that Spain is allmost a flat country. So the road to Alicante from Madrid, it was up and down for 350 km :). Uphill with 2 person and luggage, is struggling so the speeds stops at 100-110km/h, depends how big is the slope. But in 1000 km the cruise speed was 120-130, more 120 km/h because all the wayback i had only head wind. I had to do 1000 of the 1050 km only on the highway. At the moment I am satisfied :)
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on July 31, 2019, 02:09:48 AM
Well Alexhop you are certainly treating a new bike differently to me. I can see why you were concerned about the five year warranty at the rate you are going you will probably need it,so make sure you keep the dealer happy.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on August 07, 2019, 12:12:31 PM
I fitted a new tyre to my Silverwing 600 two weeks ago, so, have been riding that. I take the Cruisym out at least once a week for a little runaround, it is coming up to 15,000km soon so I have the oils and cleaners ready , it will need a new drive belt, and the dealer is quoting £144. Seems expensive to me ,but once I have a new belt I will measure it and see what people like GATES are charging. I have used Gates belts on my Silverwings for years and trust them.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Alexhop2001 on August 08, 2019, 12:32:52 PM
I saw that the original belt is quite expensive, but i saw on ebay or amazon i think cheaper.  In spain they give you at the 15k for 220 euro : belt, Variator rollers, Spark plug , Drive guides, Air filter , transmission and engine oil. I think it`a expensive, but for the warranty i have to do all the revisions in SYM aproved service. For now i just have 2450km, but next week i`m going in North of Spain in Gijon, so i will be doing in a few days some i think 1200-1300 km
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Alexhop2001 on August 08, 2019, 01:33:38 PM
A, yes. And i just changed in warranty the RIGHT SWITCH, on the engine start button, the drawing was erased after 2 weeks. And it wasn`t normal so i took it in warranty. The mecanic told me that it`s the first one that had this defect and it`s seems that was mine :). From the begining i have some strange noises on the front when go uneven road or with potholes, i don`t know but it looks like a plastic is banging somewhere, i tried to find it but nothing. The mecanic test it and tolds me that i`m crazy. 3 mecanics told me that i`m crazy and hearing noises :)). I will go on holliday and after i will go to another sym service because it`s driving me crazy. On good road it`s perfect on uneven road it`s the same like an old Yamaha majesty from 1999 that i have :)). I told them that i have at home a burgman 200 and dosn`t have any noise ( and has 30k km from 2009) and they told me that the sym it`s not an yamaha or a suzuki, it`s a SYM ( wtf ) :))
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Alexhop2001 on August 11, 2019, 12:08:15 PM
Friday I went for a mountain tour, alone ( the first time without my wife :)) ), and WOW, it`s another scooter, it`s running fatastic, 0 - 140 like nothing. Also on saturday i went another time to visit some cities and castels in the mountains. I made 400 km, with a fuel consuption of 3.6 liters, 50% highway 110-130 km/h and on the normal road 50-100km/h up and down the mountains.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on August 18, 2019, 11:52:42 AM
Just topped 15,000kms. did the oil change and cleaned the filter, cleaned crankcase filter and air filter changed oil in final drive, cleaned and checked spark plug. Only thing left to do is Belt change and cleaning that area, will visit dealer and get a new belt. As usual, after changing the oil, the engine warning light came on, had a run out of 180km and still on. I know nothing is wrong, so, will ignore it,as I have in the past.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on August 20, 2019, 11:39:51 AM
Got a new drive belt from the dealer today, it was priced at £144, but they only charged me £126. Sometimes it pays to be friendly. The warning light for the engine decided it had had enough and went out of it's own accord. The weather keeps changing here we seem to get one fine day followed by a wet and windy day, I ride on the good days, and if not too much rain.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Alexhop2001 on August 21, 2019, 12:23:04 PM
I did last week 1300 km, it`s runs very good. Cruising speed with 2 persons and a lot of clothes and things 110-130 ( real speed 100-120 ) cruising speed. The only problem it that on hollyday for 4 days was leaking water from the water pump , but when i got back home in Madrid it stoped. I will go to the mecanic next week, because now they are closed. I`m now at 4350km from 15 of july, the day i bought it :)
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on August 23, 2019, 02:18:49 AM
I can see now why the warranty was important to you Alexhop, you seem to be expecting a lot from a 300cc machine. You would have been better off with my Silverwing 600, touring with two up and baggage. Hope all goes well for you.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Alexhop2001 on August 23, 2019, 03:29:23 AM
I buyied to use it. Sym says that is a good scooter for long trips, and it is. It runs very good, and i don`t really want to use the warranty. But i wanted something new in the range of 4-5000 euro, because i had to buy also all the gear, helmets and other stuff. I really like the silverwing, but it`s old. Maybe in one year or two i will change it for a Sym MaxSym 400 or a 600cc. But for now i`m ok :)
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on August 28, 2019, 12:18:00 PM
Yesterday  had my weekly run to the coast, it started raining, and I had no waterproofs with me, it was in the seventies when I set out. Rain stopped after a few miles coming home so I was okay. Today I resolved to change the drive belt. After watching a mechanic do the belt change on You tube, I started, removed all the coverings, no problem, but getting the final cover off a bit of a struggle. I changed the belt, cleaned the clutch parts and variator, rollers looked okay, and sliding pieces, so cleaned everything up and re- assembled. All seems well. Easier than doing a belt change on my Silverwing ,but, on the Silverwing you do not need to remove the clutch to get the belt off.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: patkin on September 04, 2019, 08:19:21 AM
Well I posted about my test ride in Feb 2019 but bought a CRF250 Rally. I am happy to say that I have just traded my CRF for a new Cruisym 300 taking delivery Monday. I love this scooter, however for UK people should be aware that SYM uk demand that the service intervals in the book are ignored and the service intervals given on their web page are to be followed. “The servicing schedule for SYM machines is first service at 500km or 6 months and then every 3000km or 6 months whichever comes first.”

Obviously this is a considerable increase in servicing and costs over those in the book. Normally the published service schedule is set for the more arduous conditions in more harsh climates and not overly lax.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on September 04, 2019, 11:56:11 AM
Hello patkin, hope you enjoy your Cruisym 300. I have never seen another on the road, seen the Joymax ,maybe two.I have done all services on my Cruisym myself without any problems and, as just posted, changed the belt and cleaned the clutch. It depends how much you value the warranty, personally, I don't care about any warranty. I have had two new Silverwing 600 in the last nine years and never been back to the dealer except for parts. It was my birthday recently and my son-in-law bought me a rear brake light fitting kit for the Shad top box I fitted. Today I got round to fitting it and wiring it up. I did not like driiling a hole for the cable or cutting into the existing wiring but, needs must and it works very well. I will do servicing at 5000km intervals.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Alexhop2001 on September 09, 2019, 12:23:44 AM
In Spain you have to do the first service at 1000km, the second one at 5000 and after every 5000 km. In Spain they give you 5 years warranty, but you have 2+3 years, the free 3 years warraty they will give you only if you do all he services with original Sym parts and in Sym dealer service. If you don`t do this you have only 2 years warranty. I just went for the 5000km service and payied 91 euro. Enjoy your CruiSym Patkin :)
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: patkin on September 10, 2019, 07:28:32 AM
Thanks for the welcome.  A couple of things. I have installed a Datatool alarm and it’s the third I have installed on various bikes, I have to say access on the SYM made it the easiest install to date. I have fitted a bar to hold a mobile phone, I also installed Phillips Crystal White H11 bulbs. I also fitted Chinese bling in the for, of span adjustable folding levers and gold anodised brake cylinder reservoir covers.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on September 12, 2019, 11:54:34 AM
If the warranty is important to you patkin be careful about fitting parts, The company will look for any excuse to say that fitting something will invalidate the Warranty.   
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: patkin on September 15, 2019, 12:24:58 PM
If the warranty is important to you patkin be careful about fitting parts, The company will look for any excuse to say that fitting something will invalidate the Warranty.

Thanks for the advice, however true,  I think SYM would find difficulty associating aftermarket brake levers or an alarm system wired to the battery only with an engine failure. As a chartered engineer I would have some considerable access to expert knowledge if they ever pulled that one on me 😉
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: patkin on September 18, 2019, 02:56:40 AM
Does anyone have a clue about which traffic camera would fit inside the fairing of a Cruisym? The reason for asking is that there is a blanked hole for this purpose just below the screen. Inside there are two mounting points for a backing plate of some kind to support the camera.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on September 21, 2019, 01:05:37 PM
When I got my first Silverwing 600 in 2010, I looked at different things that people suggested was needed. I am not keen on fitting different bits and pieces, I think the people that design a thing usually have tested things. On my Silverwings ( 1/2) The first job was to remove the under seat light bulb (also first job on Cruisym) to prevent a flat battery. I changed the screen on the Silverwing for an adjustable one. I fitted Dr Pulley sliders and Iridium plugs. Converted the "Butt" rest into a back rest. I tried a few different tyres but went back to the Bridgestones that Honda recommended. I don't need Sat Nav.On the cruisym I have wired up for my winter heated vest, and fitted a small top box. In time I will fit an iridium plug, and maybe Dr Pulley sliders ( although I am happy with the acceleration as it is). Up to 16700km now and enjoying every ride.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: patkin on September 26, 2019, 06:28:57 AM
When I got my first Silverwing 600 in 2010, I looked at different things that people suggested was needed. I am not keen on fitting different bits and pieces, I think the people that design a thing usually have tested things. On my Silverwings ( 1/2) The first job was to remove the under seat light bulb (also first job on Cruisym) to prevent a flat battery. I changed the screen on the Silverwing for an adjustable one. I fitted Dr Pulley sliders and Iridium plugs. Converted the "Butt" rest into a back rest. I tried a few different tyres but went back to the Bridgestones that Honda recommended. I don't need Sat Nav.On the cruisym I have wired up for my winter heated vest, and fitted a small top box. In time I will fit an iridium plug, and maybe Dr Pulley sliders ( although I am happy with the acceleration as it is). Up to 16700km now and enjoying every ride.

Good to hear the Sym is still going strong. Agree totally with your comment about leaving things as designed (I for example wouldn't change the exhaust and would hesitate to fit different drive systems as you have done) with the caveat that on items such as levers, they are also often kept plain and simple to work down to a cost. The aftermarket levers I have fitted are beautifully anodized in gold and black and are both span and length adjustable and they were only £28. Certainly span adjustable is something that higher spec machines have as standard. I had Michelin City Grip fitted to my Honda PCX and will most likely replace the OEM Maxxis on the Cruisym before the winter. The camera I consider an essential bit of kit for commuting, hats off to Sym for making a place for the camera, I suppose it will be a case of getting a system and making it work.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on September 28, 2019, 02:31:05 AM
I fitted city grips when the maxxis wore out. I got 10000km out of the rear and 15000out of thr front. The city grips have been a good choice and suit the cruisym.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Alexhop2001 on September 29, 2019, 02:11:08 PM
City grips are the perfect tires on wet or dry, i had the on a Majesty and on my Burgman. I also used in winter, winter city grips :) . At -10 degrees the tire is still soft, and can drive perfectly :). Usually the city grip holds around 10k km rear and 15k-20k km front tire. I have 6000 km on the cruisym with the original tires, that are hard, and i think 40-50% is the used, so on wet street is not the best.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on October 09, 2019, 01:54:08 AM
The weather here in the UK has been very changable,one day of constant rain,the next sunshine and pleasant. Yesterday was pleasant for my weekly run to the coast. I am off to Spain for 10days for some constant sun (hopefully). When I come back I will gear up for writer riding.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: patkin on October 10, 2019, 04:14:38 AM
The weather here in the UK has been very changable,one day of constant rain,the next sunshine and pleasant. Yesterday was pleasant for my weekly run to the coast. I am off to Spain for 10days for some constant sun (hopefully). When I come back I will gear up for writer riding.
I agree on the choice of City Grip tyres, I fitted those to my PCX and was very impressed. The Maxxis tyres, whilst fine in the dry, dont inspre confidence in the wet, I have activated the ABS when braking, thankfully in a straight line. I may change out the Maxxis to City Grip before the winter closes in.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: patkin on October 10, 2019, 04:34:01 AM
One of my dislikes is the speedo in KMPH, it takes some getting used to. Under seat storage is better than my Silverwing 600, I put a strap across the upper part, to stop things falling into the Helmet space and, removed the inside light bulb ( if the bulb is lit without you knowing you could have a flat battery). I have had the Cruisym for six months now and have no major complaints.
I realise this is an old post Sylar but I wanted to tell you that I have an app on my mobile phone that acts like a heads up display with the speed in mph displayed in large digits. you can find many similar apps for both Iphone and android. it also tells you the speed limits and has a compass. worth checking out possibly.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Syd on October 10, 2019, 08:30:11 PM
Sounds interesting, does it have a name?
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: patkin on October 14, 2019, 01:14:14 PM
Sounds interesting, does it have a name?
DigiHud
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on October 21, 2019, 11:55:34 AM
Got back yesterday from Spain, 29c and dropped to 26c at night, after 10 days happy to be home in 14/15c temps. Saw many scooters in Spain, most are not well looked after, but one BMW scooter had a heated seat, now in the coming months, that would be welcome. patkin, I do have a mobile phone but very basic, only switch it on when riding. It just gets messages and I can make calls, apps and such are alien to me. I have got used to the Km reading and it does not bother me anymore.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on October 30, 2019, 01:00:10 PM
Had my weekly run to the coast today, on the Sym. Weather definitely getting colder, I will be putting my handlebar covers on now, heated grips are okay but, it is the cold wind hitting the back of your gloves I don't like.I also think I will be using my Silverwing more in winter, the extra weight and power come in handy in strong winds. It has been below freezing at night now so, no riding till after eleven AM.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: patkin on November 07, 2019, 08:23:13 AM
My oil check light came on today at random some 1000km after its 1st service, checked the level and ok. It must be a sensor based on oil level because I never saw it before after going through the pre=check sequence after turning on ignition and prior to starting engine.

Right O have just investigated and my check oil light has come on 1000km since it was serviced, as it is programmed to do. So a level check and simple reset should hold it off for another 1000km
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: patkin on November 07, 2019, 08:56:42 AM
Had my weekly run to the coast today, on the Sym. Weather definitely getting colder, I will be putting my handlebar covers on now, heated grips are okay but, it is the cold wind hitting the back of your gloves I don't like.I also think I will be using my Silverwing more in winter, the extra weight and power come in handy in strong winds. It has been below freezing at night now so, no riding till after eleven AM.

I am looking forward to buying some bar muffs at the upcoming Motorcycle Live show at the NEC. Any recommendation?
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on November 07, 2019, 01:22:43 PM
I am a big fan of handlebar "Muffs", I called them covers because "Muff" has a different meaning in the USA. When buying a set make sure they will not obstruct the mirrors, I find the best have Velcro  fastenings as well as ties, I use the oil check light ( that comes on every 1000kms to remind you to do an oil check) to monitor my fuel consumption,re setting it each time I fill up. When resetting the oil light you may have to hold reset two seconds then release and press again.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on November 11, 2019, 01:00:24 PM
Went for my Sunday run (Rememberance Sunday). Did not leave home till after Eleven am as the two minutes silence has to be observed. The day was bright and dry but cold, had my Keis heated vest on, but, on switching on nothing. Had a very pleasant ride and back in time for Sunday lunch ( 4pm). Checked the vest and found the fuse on the input line had blown, new fuse all well again. Many villages still had their parades going but no bother to wait a few minutes now and again.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on November 23, 2019, 12:55:57 PM
Got my Silverwing 600 out of the Garage to go for my run to the coast, ABS light did not go out after moving off, and stayed lit all the way there. On coming home light went out ,as it should, after a couple of yards and stayed out. Had a run around on the SYM a day later, must admit I do prefer the Sym now, but in strong winds, and light rain, it has to be the Silverwing.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on January 14, 2020, 10:34:52 AM
On Sunday 5th of January I was at Glasson Dock on the Silverwing, when I tried to start up to come home nothing. Completely dead no lights no ignition. Checked fuses all okay. Tried to check main fuse and  the cover was melted on, unable to get at the fuse. I have breakdown cover and eventually got home. On inspection the starter relay and the cover where melted together. I have a new starter relay and have a new plastic cover on order, I will get an auto electrician to check electrics. This is the final straw with the Silverwing, once it is running again it goes.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on January 25, 2020, 03:27:57 AM
We are having quite a mild winter, up till now, in the North West UK. I am able to ride most days, the Sym is my main bike now ( the Silver wing is in disgrace I do not even want to look at it) it really is a pleasure to ride and I am up to 19000 km now so already have a new air filter and oils ready for the 20000km service
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on February 01, 2020, 08:56:06 AM
Today first of February, very strong winds but dry, I went for a fifty mile run over the country lanes where I live, today we are out of the EU.I never wanted to be in the EU, and voted against it the first time. I know this is not the place for political statements but, I am just so pleased for my country.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: patkin on February 04, 2020, 05:00:03 AM
I'm with you on the new dawn.

My machine is rapidly approaching the 3000Km service, really enjoying it and it is perfect for commuting with the odd longer ride, motoways and motorway speeds are no issue and when the weather warms up I will most likely use it to visit the Lake district.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Alexhop2001 on February 04, 2020, 06:47:03 AM
I'm with you on the new dawn.

My machine is rapidly approaching the 3000Km service, really enjoying it and it is perfect for commuting with the odd longer ride, motoways and motorway speeds are no issue and when the weather warms up I will most likely use it to visit the Lake district.

Hello. What 3000km service ? It`s the 1000 - 5000 - 10000 an so on. I`m at 9000 km. In december i went to malaga from madrid with my cruisym, it was very cold, but an adventure of 1300 km in a weekend run. In 9000km the only problem that i had, was the leaking water pump that fixed in warranty. Now i have to change the rear tire ( i can still keep it easy 2000 km ) and the rear breakes pads. I`m starting to prepare for the long trip to tenerife in september. The only cruisym that will cross the ocean with driver and passager:) I have a big top case and also buyied side cases. But first in may i will go 1 week holliday around portugal.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Alexhop2001 on February 04, 2020, 06:48:22 AM
We are having quite a mild winter, up till now, in the North West UK. I am able to ride most days, the Sym is my main bike now ( the Silver wing is in disgrace I do not even want to look at it) it really is a pleasure to ride and I am up to 19000 km now so already have a new air filter and oils ready for the 20000km service

Hello Sylar.
You arrived at 20000 km with your cruisym ? Wow :). How was the belt after 15000 km, did you changed it ?
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on February 05, 2020, 05:46:18 PM
Hello Alexhop2001, yes changed belt at 15000km along with oil I also changed rear drive oil, it only takes a small amount so I will change it every 5000km. The old belt seemed alright but you can never tell, I will keep old belt as an emergency belt just in case. I also cleaned the clutch and surfaces, it was straight forward service and easier to do than the Silverwing 600.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on February 13, 2020, 09:16:49 AM
We had storm Ciara over the weekend,but, by Wednesday it had more or less passed. On my run to the coast on Wednesday it was hailstoning when I left home, and a few showers on the way there, but, it stayed fine whilst in Southport, needless to say I was the only one there. On the way home again a bit of hailstones but mainly fine and dry,  I enjoyed the ride in any case. Storm Dennis now forecast for this weekend.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: patkin on February 14, 2020, 09:50:06 AM
I'm with you on the new dawn.

My machine is rapidly approaching the 3000Km service, really enjoying it and it is perfect for commuting with the odd longer ride, motoways and motorway speeds are no issue and when the weather warms up I will most likely use it to visit the Lake district.

Hello. What 3000km service ? It`s the 1000 - 5000 - 10000 an so on. I`m at 9000 km. In december i went to malaga from madrid with my cruisym, it was very cold, but an adventure of 1300 km in a weekend run. In 9000km the only problem that i had, was the leaking water pump that fixed in warranty. Now i have to change the rear tire ( i can still keep it easy 2000 km ) and the rear breakes pads. I`m starting to prepare for the long trip to tenerife in september. The only cruisym that will cross the ocean with driver and passager:) I have a big top case and also buyied side cases. But first in may i will go 1 week holliday around portugal.

In the UK the importer insists that the scooter is serviced at 500km then every 3000km to have the 5 year warranty. its mad but there we are. Mine was serviced today and they claimed the valve clearances had to be adjusted.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on February 14, 2020, 01:15:34 PM
In my case patkin I always do my own servicing. I don't care about any warranty. You could be right in letting the dealer service your machine if the warranty is important to you. I will shortly be coming to the 20000km service, I find it straight forward and have had no problems up to date. My handbook says service every 5,oookm so that is what I do. The rear tyre looks like it will need changing soon, so the City grip has lasted as long as the original tyre ( 10000km).
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Alexhop2001 on February 21, 2020, 06:21:30 AM
I'm with you on the new dawn.

My machine is rapidly approaching the 3000Km service, really enjoying it and it is perfect for commuting with the odd longer ride, motoways and motorway speeds are no issue and when the weather warms up I will most likely use it to visit the Lake district.

Hello. What 3000km service ? It`s the 1000 - 5000 - 10000 an so on. I`m at 9000 km. In december i went to malaga from madrid with my cruisym, it was very cold, but an adventure of 1300 km in a weekend run. In 9000km the only problem that i had, was the leaking water pump that fixed in warranty. Now i have to change the rear tire ( i can still keep it easy 2000 km ) and the rear breakes pads. I`m starting to prepare for the long trip to tenerife in september. The only cruisym that will cross the ocean with driver and passager:) I have a big top case and also buyied side cases. But first in may i will go 1 week holliday around portugal.

In the UK the importer insists that the scooter is serviced at 500km then every 3000km to have the 5 year warranty. its mad but there we are. Mine was serviced today and they claimed the valve clearances had to be adjusted.

Lol, it will be very expensive to do it every 3000km. In Spain for the 5 year warranty i do the normal 5000 km service. Next week i will do my 10000km service, and change the rear tire and brakes ( they are still good for 1-2000km, but i use it a lot at fast speed ). In Spain ( madrid ) spring  has arrived so in weekend i will be doing some km, and in May i`m going to Portugal, i think a 2000-2500km trip :)

Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Alexhop2001 on February 25, 2020, 04:30:29 AM
Just did my 10000km service. 97 euro the 10k service ( engine and transmision oil and filter ) plus 180e to change rear tire and brakes. How much to you spend in England to change a tire including the tire ( i put dunlop ) ?
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on February 25, 2020, 09:35:49 AM
When I have new tyres, I take the wheel off and take the wheel to the tyre fitter,who I order the tyre from, and they fit the new tyre and a new valve, balance the wheel, and it is  around sixty pounds. When doing the service oil change etc it just costs me the parts, oil , filter around ten pounds. I have not needed new brake pads yet. I have found the Michelin city grip a very good tyre and have them on the Cruisym at present.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on February 27, 2020, 10:32:05 AM
A fine sunny ,but  cold day today. Had my run to the coast, a couple of light snow showers but mainly dry and sunny. On reaching home my mileage shows 19989km, so I took the drain plug out and will leave it to drain overnight. I have a new air filter ready to fit and am using Motul 10/40 part synthetic oil.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Tromper on February 27, 2020, 01:18:11 PM
Sounds nice Sy,
The weather's been improving around here as well.  We had 80 cloudy, mostly raining or drizzling days in a row this year that ended a couple weeks ago.  Still winterish temperatures for around here (Seattlish), but the clouds have turned blue and the strange burning yellow orb has been sighted.

A fine sunny ,but  cold day today. Had my run to the coast, a couple of light snow showers but mainly dry and sunny. On reaching home my mileage shows 19989km, so I took the drain plug out and will leave it to drain overnight. I have a new air filter ready to fit and am using Motul 10/40 part synthetic oil.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on February 29, 2020, 02:59:21 AM
Hello Tromper. You may have seen that the UK is flooded. Constant rain every day. Fortunately I live high up. We do get the odd day where it easys off, that's when I venture out. It is not too cold at around 50f I think if it was colder this rain would be falling a snow as normal for us at this time of year. What bike have you got?
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Tromper on February 29, 2020, 06:47:40 PM
I use a couple different Bikes Sylar.
A Sym HD200 & a Suzuki Burgman 650.

Rain around here's been a constant thing.  This is not unusual for the Pacific NW area, but this year is special insofar as it was about 80 days in a row without a notable break in the clouds until a week or so ago.  This has caused flooding, & mudslides throughout the region.

Temps around here have been running 40's (F) during the day for the most part with a jump into the 50's last week as a pleasant exception.
Things are trending up though & I've managed some recreational riding in addition to commuting lately.

Hello Tromper. You may have seen that the UK is flooded. Constant rain every day. Fortunately I live high up. We do get the odd day where it easys off, that's when I venture out. It is not too cold at around 50f I think if it was colder this rain would be falling a snow as normal for us at this time of year. What bike have you got?
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Alexhop2001 on March 04, 2020, 06:54:09 AM
A fine sunny ,but  cold day today. Had my run to the coast, a couple of light snow showers but mainly dry and sunny. On reaching home my mileage shows 19989km, so I took the drain plug out and will leave it to drain overnight. I have a new air filter ready to fit and am using Motul 10/40 part synthetic oil.

Happy birthday for the 20000 km :). I just have 9900km :)
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on March 05, 2020, 12:57:35 PM
I have been out a few times since doing the 20000km service.  Is it just my Cruisym, or does anyone else have the annoying engine warning light coming on each time i change the final drive oil? Every time i have changed the oil the warning light comes on and it does go off after about four or five trips, but it is annoying. A great day today bright sunshine and a lot warmer had a 180km ride around.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on March 13, 2020, 01:19:26 PM
I just topped 21000kms today. I must say the Cruisym feels better than ever, really smooth cruising at 50/60 m.p.h. i am really enjoying riding this bike and at 90m.p.g. very economical. I have just ordered a new rear tyre as the tread is down to two millimeters, i have been happy with the Michelin city grip i fitted so, will replace it with another city grip.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on March 23, 2020, 03:56:59 AM
Although, like everyone else, with this awful business of the corona virus, we in the UK have been told to self isolate. I decided that riding on two wheels and wearing a helmet was, in itself , isolating. I had a ride out on Sunday as normal, but I took a thermos flask with me, I sat on a bench and enjoyed the fine day. I hope everyone gets through this difficult period and wish everyone good health.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Alexhop2001 on March 25, 2020, 10:08:16 AM
Although, like everyone else, with this awful business of the corona virus, we in the UK have been told to self isolate. I decided that riding on two wheels and wearing a helmet was, in itself , isolating. I had a ride out on Sunday as normal, but I took a thermos flask with me, I sat on a bench and enjoyed the fine day. I hope everyone gets through this difficult period and wish everyone good health.

Hello :)
Unfurtunatly i`m in Madrid where normaly we can`t go out. But i`m using the Cruisym 2 km per day to go to work :)).

I have been out a few times since doing the 20000km service.  Is it just my Cruisym, or does anyone else have the annoying engine warning light coming on each time i change the final drive oil? Every time i have changed the oil the warning light comes on and it does go off after about four or five trips, but it is annoying. A great day today bright sunshine and a lot warmer had a 180km ride around.

Nop, the only light that is coming on, is the oil check every 1000km.

Stay safe and good health to all :)
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on May 22, 2020, 12:10:13 PM
How is everyone. Not been on the site for a while as ,like everyone else in the UK, on a Lockdown. However it has been eased up, so we can get out for a ride around. I have a little circuit i use that covers about 50 Km. It takes in country lanes and great scenery over our Lancashire hills. i also get a few short trips to get some fish and chips on Fridays. I need a new rear tyre but i have been unable to get the rear wheel off. For some reason the cover plate and will not come off, so it is now booked into the dealer for them to do on 10/6/20 is the first available date i could get, the tread is still legal at 2mm but i would not be happy riding in the rain. Hope Alex is okay in Spain and enjoying his cruisym. Stay safe everyone this nightmare will end.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on June 04, 2020, 07:34:31 AM
On Wednesday it was raining slightly, so I had my run to the coast. After the high temperatures we have been having recently it was a pleasant ride, I don't mind a bit of rain, recently parking here was a little crowded, but Wednesday only me here. A cup of tea, a biscuit and a nice cigar, then a pleasant ride home.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Tromper on June 04, 2020, 10:57:24 PM
Sounds fun.
I've always appreciated popular places when they're deserted.

On Wednesday it was raining slightly, so I had my run to the coast. After the high temperatures we have been having recently it was a pleasant ride, I don't mind a bit of rain, recently parking here was a little crowded, but Wednesday only me here. A cup of tea, a biscuit and a nice cigar, then a pleasant ride home.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on June 11, 2020, 02:49:12 AM
I took the Sym to the dealers yesterday, it was booked in because I could not remove the rear wheel. I arrived,as arranged three weeks ago, at nine a.m.  The dealer said the wrong tyre has been sent, so it could take a couple of days for the correct tyre to arrive, this, despite me having told him the tyre I wanted just four days ago. I now have to wait for them to contact me when my bike is ready.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Tromper on June 12, 2020, 11:58:46 AM
Well heck.  Annoying enough.  I suspect it wasn't on their agenda either if you're going to leave it there. 
Dealers (around here/heavily urbanized) don't like to keep extra bikes around since space is at a premium.

I'm guessing the tire size isn't real common in your area?

I took the Sym to the dealers yesterday, it was booked in because I could not remove the rear wheel. I arrived,as arranged three weeks ago, at nine a.m.  The dealer said the wrong tyre has been sent, so it could take a couple of days for the correct tyre to arrive, this, despite me having told him the tyre I wanted just four days ago. I now have to wait for them to contact me when my bike is ready.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on June 12, 2020, 12:01:40 PM
I got a phone call at three p.m. Telling me my bike was ready. New tyre fitted, and they say no problems. Anyway bike is back that is all i care about. Normally when i take the wheel off and have a new tyre fitted it costs £63, the dealer charged me £111. I suppose that is resonable. The tyre size is pretty common on a lot of scooters in the UK, it was the make i was not happy with.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Tromper on June 12, 2020, 11:38:57 PM
Glad you're back up and running Sy.
No clue as to what's reasonable for installs in your neck of the woods.
Seems to run $40-$50 with the wheel off the bike around here, so if costs are similar a bit extra for them taking it off seems reasonable.
I had someone else get the rear off the blue HD the first time around.  It was very stuck.  Since then I have no major problems taking it off.
The red one (mostly used by wife) was stuck but I did get it to concede with a large rubble mallet and curses in a couple different languages.

I got a phone call at three p.m. Telling me my bike was ready. New tyre fitted, and they say no problems. Anyway bike is back that is all i care about. Normally when i take the wheel off and have a new tyre fitted it costs £63, the dealer charged me £111. I suppose that is resonable. The tyre size is pretty common on a lot of scooters in the UK, it was the make i was not happy with.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on June 14, 2020, 03:18:56 AM
Hello Tromper, why I could not get the rear wheel off still baffles me. At least hearing that someone else had the same trouble with a Sym makes me feel a little better. That is the first time in thirty years that I have let someone else do any work on any bike I have owned.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Tromper on June 14, 2020, 03:32:26 PM
If it's structured the same way as the rear is on the HD, & I suspect it is, the corrosion can get over a wide area. 
The folks who got mine off commented it was a true PITA, & came down to just plain lots of force and soaking it with appropriate solutions.  Which is pretty much what I had to do to remove the one on the red one.   Having had the blue one's rear off i could see where I needed to whack it and where to use some penetrating oil.  I haven't had a problem with either since then.

Hello Tromper, why I could not get the rear wheel off still baffles me. At least hearing that someone else had the same trouble with a Sym makes me feel a little better. That is the first time in thirty years that I have let someone else do any work on any bike I have owned.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on June 25, 2020, 07:47:45 AM
Had my run to the coast yesterday. We in the UK are not used to such high temperatures it was 81f. I do not enjoy riding in weather like this, I prefer a cloudy day, or even a bit of rain. Today it is in the 90's in my garden,no riding today. I can feel the difference with the new rear tyre and very confident throwing the bike in the bends,160 mls on the new tyre up to now

Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on July 22, 2020, 10:10:36 AM
Just clocked up 24000km today. I really am impressed with this SYM. It is my number one bikel now, I find I can really lean it over in the bends and it  will cruise all day at sixty mph. Although my Silver wing is running okay again now,it is the Sym I prefer.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Tromper on July 22, 2020, 11:01:13 PM
Bit more of a contrast, but overall I ride my HD200 more than my Burgman 650 but I usually end up with more miles in a year on the big burger.
Different thing though, the U.S. driving vs. UK.

Just clocked up 24000km today. I really am impressed with this SYM. It is my number one bikel now, I find I can really lean it over in the bends and it  will cruise all day at sixty mph. Although my Silver wing is running okay again now,it is the Sym I prefer.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on July 23, 2020, 12:21:06 PM
I visited the USA many times, on Vacation, about fifteen since i last visited. Usually hired a car and drove places, so i understand the differance in our roadways. Personally i prefer country lanes and back roads to Freeways, especially on two wheels. Driving on long straight roads is okay in a car, but boring on two wheels.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Tromper on July 23, 2020, 10:45:48 PM
That's a part of why I haven't done an iron butt..sure bragging rights, but exhaustion and boredom..not my cup o tea.

I visited the USA many times, on Vacation, about fifteen since i last visited. Usually hired a car and drove places, so i understand the differance in our roadways. Personally i prefer country lanes and back roads to Freeways, especially on two wheels. Driving on long straight roads is okay in a car, but boring on two wheels.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on August 16, 2020, 11:44:06 AM
I bought a top box carrier for my Cruisym and a top box (a Shad). Fitting instuctions were pretty straight forward ( i thought). I fitted both to the bike after a couple of months i noticed the top box bracket was breaking, through the vibration caused when riding. On closer inspection i realised i had not fitted the central support bolt. It was my fault for not reading the leaflet for fitting, carefully enough. After drilling a hole i discovered that there was a captive nut passing through the frame of the bike ( no mention of this in the fitting leaflet), i have now fitted the bracket correctly after repairing it first. I suppose the advice of measuring twice, and cutting once, applies to reading instuctions too !!. Nearly at 25,000 km now so will be doing the service soon.   
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Tromper on August 17, 2020, 01:38:40 AM
Glad ya got it fixed Sy,

Wish this forum were more picture friendly, so I could ask ya to post a pic; but alas it only takes (some not all) externally hosted stuff.

I bought a top box carrier for my Cruisym and a top box (a Shad). Fitting instuctions were pretty straight forward ( i thought). I fitted both to the bike after a couple of months i noticed the top box bracket was breaking, through the vibration caused when riding. On closer inspection i realised i had not fitted the central support bolt. It was my fault for not reading the leaflet for fitting, carefully enough. After drilling a hole i discovered that there was a captive nut passing through the frame of the bike ( no mention of this in the fitting leaflet), i have now fitted the bracket correctly after repairing it first. I suppose the advice of measuring twice, and cutting once, applies to reading instuctions too !!. Nearly at 25,000 km now so will be doing the service soon.   
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on August 22, 2020, 02:43:51 AM
When I got home from my weekly run to the coast speedo showed exactly 25000 km. I did the oil change, and cleaned the variator filter, the spark plug was cleaned, gap was okay. Their is no oil filter.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on September 18, 2020, 02:24:23 AM
Revs kept dropping slightly at tickover, plug was okay, but I put an iridium plug in that I already had 26095 km now.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Tromper on September 19, 2020, 01:15:19 AM
Iridiums are great.
I use copper in the SYM since I'm in there often enough and the plug's real easy to get at, but on my Burgman I swapped to iridium plugs when I started getting some blow out at high speeds/revs at about 18k.  Checked 'em when I checked the valves a while back not a spot of wear looked great.
The OEM Iridium plugs in my RAV4 run for about 120k with no issues (just changed those a bit ago as well..probably the last time I'll need to)
Well worth the expense on applications that aren't performance and particularly ones that are tough to get at.  Probably worth it on others, but last time I got lazy on the SYM and had the dealer do some work he did me a kindness and replaced the plug (an iridium with about 2k on it) with a copper plug...
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on September 19, 2020, 11:44:29 AM
Hello Tromper, i usually fit Iridium plugs when changing the original plug. In the UK we can usually buy an iridium plug for the same price as a standard plug, so it makes sense to change to one.Autumn ( Fall) as you call it, is just around the corner, the sun is still warm but the wind has cooled things down. Still fine sunny days followed by cloudy cooler days suits me either way, as long as i have the right clothing on.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Tromper on September 19, 2020, 04:33:31 PM
Iridium plugs are a bit more expensive here, but not painfully so.

Far as riding goes.  I believe your climate is similar to what I have here in the Pacific North West (Puget Sound in my case) area.
Summers are mild, winters are wet and cool.
Apart from the mountains snow is remarkable, fog is common and black ice can be an issue.

The cooler weather is just a matter of layering correctly.  Really what's thought to be cold around here is a far cry from where I'm from originally so it's not that bad for me.

Hello Tromper, i usually fit Iridium plugs when changing the original plug. In the UK we can usually buy an iridium plug for the same price as a standard plug, so it makes sense to change to one.Autumn ( Fall) as you call it, is just around the corner, the sun is still warm but the wind has cooled things down. Still fine sunny days followed by cloudy cooler days suits me either way, as long as i have the right clothing on.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on September 28, 2020, 12:19:39 PM
The last few days it has turned really cold. Heat in the sun but very cold wind. The iridium plug seems to have cured the loss of revs at tickover. I have now put my handlebar covers on and wearing my winter gloves. I keep a check on fuel cosumption, and i average 95 M.P.G.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on October 05, 2020, 02:44:47 AM
We are having very strange weather One day constant rain, the next, warm, and sunny. I had a 180km ride out yesterday, to Fleetwood, a fishing town on the coast of Northwest England. A very pleasant day out. On the way home, on a stretch of a country lane cruising along at fifty m.p.h, the road was two feet deep in water, in a place ,fortunately the cars coming the other way gave way, so I did not get drenched by their bow wave. The Sym never missed a beat and soon dried out.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on October 19, 2020, 02:59:52 AM
Yesterday I had a180km ride, it is certainly getting colder. I have a Keis heated vest that I wear in winter, not cold enough for it yet. I normally wear, base layer, windproof layer then outer jacket and trousers ( both with quited liner). The Sym is my number one bike now and is a pleasure to ride, the only things that annoy me are the clock is twenty four hours I would prefer twelve and the speedo main is in KM.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Tromper on October 26, 2020, 12:49:14 AM
If you really want MPH/Miles (Dunno why, but sure why not?) & if that's the same cluster that they use on Citycom there's an off chance that something like this might work on yours.
Dunno what they exact way to do it on the SYM would be but that's pretty much identical to how it's switched on my Suzuki.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O91iSuioxtQ
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on October 26, 2020, 07:34:41 AM
The Cruisym does not have an electronic Speedo, just the large dial. In the UK we calculate in miles, all road signs and destinations are in miles. Old duffers like me use miles, and feet and inches, we have now left the EU, that was the only reason we were obliged to use Km and thier  units of measurement.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Tromper on October 26, 2020, 04:42:58 PM
I hear ya.

I live in the land of SAE measurements, but have a mild preference for metric, but only because it's annoying to keep two sets of tools and most of the world is metric.  Dividing by 8 or 10 doesn't make that bit a difference to me.
Not much to do with a mechanical unless you want to take it apart and redo the gearing then chance the face.
Lot of work for limited gain, but possible.

The Cruisym does not have an electronic Speedo, just the large dial. In the UK we calculate in miles, all road signs and destinations are in miles. Old duffers like me use miles, and feet and inches, we have now left the EU, that was the only reason we were obliged to use Km and thier  units of measurement.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on November 13, 2020, 03:35:14 AM
Just topped 28200 kms. Getting colder now, layering up no longer warm enough , time to get my Keis heated vest out again. Many clear sunny days in between the cloudy rainy days ,so a lot of good rides. The Sym is performing really well, I think it is well run in now, always get 90+ m.p. g.and a pleasure to ride. We are in "lockdown" again, so not suppose to leave home except to exercise, well riding is my exercise One other point is it uses no oil in between oil changes, I check oil level weekly.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Tromper on November 16, 2020, 10:35:10 PM
A mite nippy around here too Sy,
Picked up some battery power gloves, but since it's raining all the time can't say I've put any miles on to speak of.
The HD200's up for a bit of maintenance anyway, so what I've done has been on my Burgman.
Hoping things dry out, but sounding like a cold wet winter this year so likely not much action until spring.

Just topped 28200 kms. Getting colder now, layering up no longer warm enough , time to get my Keis heated vest out again. Many clear sunny days in between the cloudy rainy days ,so a lot of good rides. The Sym is performing really well, I think it is well run in now, always get 90+ m.p. g.and a pleasure to ride. We are in "lockdown" again, so not suppose to leave home except to exercise, well riding is my exercise One other point is it uses no oil in between oil changes, I check oil level weekly.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on November 17, 2020, 01:22:33 PM
Hi Tromper, i have heated handlebar grips and i also have Keis heated inner gloves and boot liners, but i do not like the cables running down my arm and legs so , rarely use them. It is still in the fifies (F) but set to get a lot colder in the near future. Hope you stay well and keep safe. I have been on my Silverwing 600 lately, just to keep everything loosened up and running free.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Alexhop2001 on December 02, 2020, 10:39:00 AM
Hello to all :) ! I`m still here and alive :). Hope everybody it`s doing good. This summer/autum went with my cruisym on vacacion, with my wife and a lot of bagages for 2 weeks. I did 3000 km, also offroad, that even with a bicycle i would not enter, but it was the only open road, on the main road was a forest fire, it was not fun doing offroad up a mountain full of a lot of stuff, and on a scooter :)), but i survived, and got back on the main road after 2-3 hours. I`m almoas at 20000km, and the only 2 big problems was when i had problems at 3000km with the water pump that was leaking, and now again i just fixed the waterpump because it was dead. The temperature was rising to maximum in 10 minutes :). Now it`s perfect. I still love the comfort and everything the cruisym gives me, but maybe next year i will change it for the new MaxSym 400. But still thinking about it. The cruisym maintenance here in Madrid it`s expensive, expecialy the one with the belt, i payied 340 euro. P.s : sorry for my english, since i arrived in spain, my only english practice is on vacation, and this year zero vacations out of spain, so no english practice :).
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on December 02, 2020, 12:50:15 PM
How nice to hear from you Aexhop2001. I often wondered how you were, with this virus and all, good to hear you are well and still enjoying your cruisym. With the things you do, the bigger bike might suit you better. I have been using my Silverwing 600 a bit more recently, and i have to be careful as it has double the engine power of the Cruisym. I will soon be doing the 30000km service on my cruisym, i have the oil, airfilter, a new belt and a new set of rollers ready to fit. It looks like we will soon be having some snow ,so, that might stop me getting out as much. Anyway glad you are okay, stay safe.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: fulham on December 27, 2020, 08:09:02 AM
https://www.wemoto.com/bikes/sym/gts_joymax_300i/16#opensection

good prices for parts

atb

fulham
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: fulham on December 27, 2020, 08:21:11 AM
I have a 2016 Joymax 300i from new very pleased with it , the only issue was recent non starting turned out HT cap self destructed all ok now.

atb

FFC
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: fulham on December 27, 2020, 08:37:52 AM
Hi All
thanks for allowing a new member , I have got everything the wrong way round , apologies big grey moment

FFC
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on December 27, 2020, 11:39:42 AM
I was nearly at 30,000km today so went for a short ride around ( in the rain). Got home and mileage at 30028km. Changed the engine oil and cleaned the oil filter. Put new air filter in and cleaned crankcase filter and crankcase breather pipe. Still to do ; final drive oil,  fit new drive belt and fit new set of rollers. Might wait for better weather to finish service.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Tromper on December 28, 2020, 04:38:30 PM
Been kinda meh here as well, but did do the rollers (sliders) and a new belt a couple weeks ago.
The bike had picked up a new funny vibration on accelleration so I'd parked it since I knew this was due despite it having been fine when I checked about 1k or so miles ago.
I found the old belt was coming apart & a chip in the clutch.  The clutch is still working fine, but with the chip I had doubts on longevity so I ordered a chinese knock off clutch off fleabay.
I'll try that out but will still have the old one to build out to a HiT clutch or something if the knock off ain't doing it.

I was nearly at 30,000km today so went for a short ride around ( in the rain). Got home and mileage at 30028km. Changed the engine oil and cleaned the oil filter. Put new air filter in and cleaned crankcase filter and crankcase breather pipe. Still to do ; final drive oil,  fit new drive belt and fit new set of rollers. Might wait for better weather to finish service.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on December 30, 2020, 01:04:51 PM
That's the problem isn't it Tromper. You cannot see the wear on the clutch, belt, sliders etc until you take things apart. I was out for a little ride around today although it was foggy, and snow in some areas, cold, but only just above freezing, so not that bad.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on January 05, 2021, 12:59:39 PM
Fitted new belt and Sliders Yesterday. A lot of dust inside casing, cleaned everything up with brake cleaning spray. Had a run round today and everything seems okay. We are into total Lockdown as from tomorrow so do not know when i will get out again.Let us hope this vaccine they have got works as well as we are told it will.Stay safe everyone, it will end one day!
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on January 08, 2021, 01:15:56 PM
We had a light fall of snow today, but, i wanted to change the final drive oil ( last job of 30000km service)  so had a little runaround to warm the engine up, then changed the oil. Each time i change the final drive oil the engine warning light comes on, it did it again today. My theory is, the pressure drops in the final drive, and it takes a few rides to put pressure up again.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Tromper on January 08, 2021, 03:30:56 PM
Huh strange.
Your electronics must be fancier than in my HD200.

We had a light fall of snow today, but, i wanted to change the final drive oil ( last job of 30000km service)  so had a little runaround to warm the engine up, then changed the oil. Each time i change the final drive oil the engine warning light comes on, it did it again today. My theory is, the pressure drops in the final drive, and it takes a few rides to put pressure up again.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on January 16, 2021, 12:50:01 PM
After a couple of rain filled days the clouds finally parted and i went for a run around on the Silverwing, just 20miles and a slight drizzle, on coming home i decided to do the same run on the Sym. All running okay( engine warning light still on). My wife and i had our coronovis vaccination shots last night ( Pfizer) apart from slight headache, no problems. We are still in Lockdown, no real problem for us.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on January 29, 2021, 01:25:50 PM
I 've been managing to get a few rides in, between the snow and rain showers we keep having. The engine warning light finally went out. I have done 430km since the service and everything running smoothly. I run my Silverwing 600 once a week just to keep the battery topped up( i do have a charger) but prefer to to give the bike a run on the road. We are still in Lockdown and, are not supposed to leave home unless shopping. As far as iam concerned riding my bike is my exercise, i do think the police cars i see think i might be a delivery driver, so leave me alone.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Tromper on January 29, 2021, 08:59:39 PM
I hear ya.
Ya can always tell 'em that you're heading out for groceries but are really bad at navigation.

I 've been managing to get a few rides in, between the snow and rain showers we keep having. The engine warning light finally went out. I have done 430km since the service and everything running smoothly. I run my Silverwing 600 once a week just to keep the battery topped up( i do have a charger) but prefer to to give the bike a run on the road. We are still in Lockdown and, are not supposed to leave home unless shopping. As far as iam concerned riding my bike is my exercise, i do think the police cars i see think i might be a delivery driver, so leave me alone.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on February 08, 2021, 04:00:26 AM
Although in the UK, we are having some really heavy snowfalls, where I live, in the North West, we seem to be missing the worst of it. Fortunately I can still get out some days, I had a run of 85 km yesterday not much traffic on the roads and banks of snow only on the highest hills, but a bitterly cold wind, Iam really glad I have my Keis heated vest and heated handlebar grips.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Tromper on February 12, 2021, 09:41:51 PM
We're getting our biannual snowfall here.
The town will shut down over the weekend but after that things should be moving towards a spring thaw.
We're normally pretty temperate around here so there's usually a day or two where riding is pleasant if shortened by the early sunset during the winter.

Although in the UK, we are having some really heavy snowfalls, where I live, in the North West, we seem to be missing the worst of it. Fortunately I can still get out some days, I had a run of 85 km yesterday not much traffic on the roads and banks of snow only on the highest hills, but a bitterly cold wind, Iam really glad I have my Keis heated vest and heated handlebar grips.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on February 16, 2021, 01:31:11 PM
On Friday i thought i would go for a ridearound, tried starting the SYM engine spins but will not fire up. Got on the Silverwing ,fired first time and off i went. Whilst riding i was thinking what could be wrong with the Sym? It suddenly hit me that maybe i had not pulled the brake lever in to start up. When i got home i sat on the Sym and pulled the brake lever in and it fired first time.My only excuse is, i fit handlebar covers in winter, and possibly that was the reason, either that, or old age and dementia are catching up with me.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Tromper on February 16, 2021, 01:33:44 PM
That just means you have to ride faster to widen the gap again.

...or old age and dementia are catching up with me.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on February 28, 2021, 12:28:49 PM
Last day of February, and in England, a cloud free sunny day. We still have the Lockdown in force, but, on my Sunday ride out a lot more Motorcycles out. Mostly they seemed to be the full leather clad, bent over the handlebars, boy racers, making a lot of noise and overtaking everything they could. I suppose most of them have not been out over winter ( too cold for them) so only to be expected. The SYM is fully run in now and, is a pleasure to ride I did not need my heated vest switched on.Looking forward to many more rides this coming year.
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Alexhop2001 on March 01, 2021, 03:27:45 AM
Hello guys ! Glad you all are ok ! :). Almost 2 weeks ago just sold my cruisym after 19500km and 1 year and seven months of life. I sold ( to the same oficial sym delear that i buyied it) it with the 40% of the inicial price that i paid in july 2019 and buyed an Honda Integra 750 DCT ( automatic dual cluch transmision 6 speed ). The new Honda, it`s fantastic ! I will be still be here saying now and then hello to you all. The main reason that i sold the cruisym was that here in spain the maintenence is to expensive for an scooter, for the 19500 km i paid 850euros in maintenance ( oil, filters etc and only one tire and one set of break pads ). I was thinking the cost until the 30000km, and it will cost me somewhere up to 1000euros for another 10000 km. The Cruisym it`s an perfect scooter but to do everything by yourself if not ....
Title: Re: CruiSYM 300
Post by: Sylar on March 01, 2021, 01:26:38 PM
Great to hear from you Axlehop 2001. Really pleased you are well and riding. You made a good choice with the Honda. I had two Honda Deauvilles in the past and they were great machines. I still run my Honda Silverwing 600. I can understand your problems with servicing, i am able to service my machines, so, only visit the dealer for parts, but mostly i get Oil,Filters etc from ebay much cheaper. Iam up to 32300km on the cruisym , only use my bikes for pleasure riding, been retired a long time now , keep well and stay safe.