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« on: October 30, 2009, 06:37:54 PM »

Does anyone really see a problem if I want to cut off the "butt" bar on the standard rack>
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« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2009, 07:40:14 PM »

I read somewhere else about someone else who had or was thinking about it...someone else had suggested that after they cut if off, they plug the open holes with plastic or rubber plugs found at the hardware or auto parts store.
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« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2009, 09:36:28 PM »

  I wonder if after the bar is cut off that the seat could be shifted back somehow.

  Probably the bar keeps your butt on the seat. It looks like the seat is mounted  too far forward.
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« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2009, 01:05:57 AM »

Best thing is to order the optional "banana" seat.
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« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2009, 07:41:40 AM »

We got the extended rear rack with our Symba.  It has a smaller optional rear bar that we left off.  So we have 2 seats, a milk crate on the rack, and no bar.  It works good that way.
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« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2009, 11:24:02 AM »

Here is a link to some photos of the optional rear rack for the SYMBA.  Your dealer will be able to get one for you.
This rack removes the bar.  Lets you keep both seats and you are able to carry alot of stuff or even attach a top box.
http://sym-usa.com/news/?p=119

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« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2009, 05:56:14 PM »

We got the extended rear rack with our Symba.  It has a smaller optional rear bar that we left off.  So we have 2 seats, a milk crate on the rack, and no bar.  It works good that way.

Here is a link to some photos of the optional rear rack for the SYMBA.  Your dealer will be able to get one for you.
This rack removes the bar.  Lets you keep both seats and you are able to carry alot of stuff or even attach a top box.
http://sym-usa.com/news/?p=119

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... or you could do this.


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« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2009, 05:05:43 AM »

We got the extended rear rack with our Symba.  It has a smaller optional rear bar that we left off.  So we have 2 seats, a milk crate on the rack, and no bar.  It works good that way.

Here is a link to some photos of the optional rear rack for the SYMBA.  Your dealer will be able to get one for you.
This rack removes the bar.  Lets you keep both seats and you are able to carry alot of stuff or even attach a top box.
http://sym-usa.com/news/?p=119

Pete Cool

... or you could do this.



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« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2009, 06:29:47 PM »

We got the extended rear rack with our Symba.  It has a smaller optional rear bar that we left off.  So we have 2 seats, a milk crate on the rack, and no bar.  It works good that way.

Here is a link to some photos of the optional rear rack for the SYMBA.  Your dealer will be able to get one for you.
This rack removes the bar.  Lets you keep both seats and you are able to carry alot of stuff or even attach a top box.
http://sym-usa.com/news/?p=119

Pete Cool

... or you could do this.



Roose,
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Don't leave us hanging.

As in, do what Josh and SYMBArider suggested... sorry about the mix up.



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« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2010, 06:31:06 PM »

Okay, so after having the Symba in storage for the long winter, I’ve been riding it for the last month or so and came to the conclusion that either I had to get the bench seat, or that luggage rack bar had to go.  I’m 5’10”, but I think anyone over 5’8”, maybe even shorter, will have a problem with the bar hitting their lower back.  It’s really not that bad when the road is smooth, but hit a bump and you risk getting bruised!

 I’m buying a condo next month and need to come up with a pretty hefty down payment, so I decided I’d go the cheap route (cutting the bar off).  I bought a hacksaw for $10.00, picked up a few chromed end caps at the hardware store for 80 cents apiece – I think they’re end-caps for curtain rods or some other household item – and went to work.  You’ll note that I really didn’t cut the bar itself, but cut the side tubes that are part of the rack, leaving about ¼” still extending out.  That was a practical decision as much as an aesthetic one, as I knew I’d need a little space for the saw to slide back and forth when I was cutting.   And, if you only cut the bar itself instead of the rack, you're going to have these little stumpy tubes sticking up for no apparent reason.  Anyways, I forced some rags and card board under the rack so I wouldn’t nick the paint once the blade went all the way through.  My cuts weren’t perfect, but after a little filing down of the rough edges I deemed them ‘close enough.’  I then painted the raw metal on the end of the rack tubes with silver touch up paint to give it some rust-proofing.  I didn’t bother trying to find a match for the baby blue paint as I knew the touched-up area would be covered once I plugged the open holes with the end-caps.   After I let the paint dry overnight, I applied a little JB weld to the inner edges of the holes, pushed in the caps (they also have little metal teeth to hold onto whatever they’re inserted in, but the ‘teeth’ are not visible once the caps are inserted) and let them dry overnight.  The caps are very solid now that the JB weld has dried.   NOTE:  before inserting the caps I pushed the teeth on the caps outward somewhat as the size is just slightly off for the diameter of the rack tubing.  ANOTHER TIP:  once you cut the rack, bring the bar assembly with you to the hardware store to find a correct size end cap (SEE photo in next post).  The end-cap I used was the only one that would’ve worked as the next sizes both up and down were either too large or too small.  

I’ve only ridden the bike once since the ‘surgery,’ but I can tell that the back bruising won’t happen now.  Next chance I get, I’m going to try it with the passenger seat in place; it seems like I’ll be able to use that as a very low backrest if I want to shift back a little when I’m cruising. I also think the rack will be as useful as before and will only be lacking the bar to stop cargo from sliding into the seat, which I don’t see as a problem so long as your cargo is lashed down securely enough.

Well, I hope this helps those of you out there who’ve been wondering what they can do to make the seating situation better without spending money on the bench seat.  I apologize for not taking photos as I did the work, but I guess I am new to this 'tutorial' business, and was a little impatient to finish the project.  Here are some photos of the result, I think it turned out pretty well:

                        







                          
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« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2010, 07:41:10 PM »

To help you visualize where to make the cut, here's a photo of the offending tumor after I removed it:

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« Reply #11 on: April 15, 2010, 07:12:57 AM »

I cut the bar off mine too but didn't do as good a job as you did!
That is excellent and, looks like it came that way from the factory!

Thanks for taking the time to post - I'm sure others will follow your lead.

Ride safe

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« Reply #12 on: April 17, 2010, 05:41:00 PM »

Thanks, NC Scootin.  As they say, "If I can do it, anyone can!"

I took a ride today with the passenger pad in place and it does work better than just the main seat -- I was able to scoot back and kind of put my butt between the two pads when I was cruising, which was not only more comfortable, but it also made shifting the heel shifter easier with the ball of my foot.  When you shift back between the seats, the passenger pad keeps you in place and gives your tailbone a nice pad.  When you are in city traffic, you can just scoot forward more onto the main seat as that does make the bike feel a little more controllable.  So, yeah, win-win all around.

It would be cool to see some photos of other folks' rack-bar surgeries if they do the same thing.  Cheers!
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