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I'm as tickled pink to own my Symbas today as I was the first day I brought them home.  BUT, they have a few little idiosyncrasies to be aware of.

1) Put in an inline petcock as soon as possible.  The vacuum petcock that comes standard can stick open (and sometimes closed), but when it's open it can be detrimental to your engine by flooding into the crankcase.

2) Start it regularly.  When they sit, the carburetors get gummed up.  Some folks, including myself, use SeaFoam treatment in the gasoline.  This carburetor gumming is not specific to Symbas, of course, but for some reason these carburetors are less forgiving than other carbs I have on my other motorbikes.

3) I live in a State where the smog control items are mandatory, but if you live in a State where they are not, it may be worth it to you to remove the items, some folks are happier with the results when they've done this.

4) The front tire.  Some folks claim the parallel groove pattern seeks out grooves in the road and they say to ditch the front tire.  I have read that this front tire can possibly go 15,000-20,000 miles, I have kept mine on.

5) Bench seat.  I think the Symba sits a bit better for shifting with a bench seat, this may vary though depending on your height.  Some folks saw off the grab bar, to allow more seating location options.

6) Although the Symba is very similar to the Honda Cub/Passport, they don't necessarily have interchangeable parts.

7) Check each fastener on the Symba to ensure tightness.

8 ) Keep your battery charged or on a tender.

9) Consider replacing the chain.  I still have my original, but I don't ride a lot.  Some folks claim the chain will stretch quickly.  Some others have been happy with the stock chain.

10) Vibration can crack license plate.  Read about it here:
http://symforum.com/index.php?topic=67.0

If anyone can think of some more tips, please add them.
« Last Edit: June 01, 2017, 08:01:26 AM by HelloPitty »
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Re: So you bought a SYMBA - read these tips for happy ownership
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2017, 01:53:27 PM »
Good information! Where did you get your inline petcock?
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Re: So you bought a SYMBA - read these tips for happy ownership
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2017, 01:58:23 PM »
At first I bought Motion Pro as it is made of brass, but it was a bugger to twist, so I bought this one and it is so easy to twist:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0038U3JKM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

The motion pro one I have looks like this one:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Motion-Pro-Inline-Fuel-Valve-3-16in-ID-Hose-08-0038/311298247651

You are welcome to my Motion Pro for free, just PM me your address.

Here is my Briggs & S. one installed.  It's somewhat near the horn as seen in the photo.
I just cut the fuel line and put it right on with the included clamps.
« Last Edit: May 22, 2017, 02:06:19 PM by HelloPitty »
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Re: So you bought a SYMBA - read these tips for happy ownership
« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2017, 01:39:31 PM »
Hi Pitty:

Thanks for the tips, I ordered the Petcock. Can you post a picture to see how you did the install? What smog items can I take off? Will it enhance performance? 

Many thanks!  ;)
« Last Edit: May 24, 2017, 01:52:27 PM by Retro Moto »
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Re: So you bought a SYMBA - read these tips for happy ownership
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2017, 08:28:04 PM »
PM sent!


At first I bought Motion Pro as it is made of brass, but it was a bugger to twist, so I bought this one and it is so easy to twist:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0038U3JKM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

The motion pro one I have looks like this one:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Motion-Pro-Inline-Fuel-Valve-3-16in-ID-Hose-08-0038/311298247651

You are welcome to my Motion Pro for free, just PM me your address.

Here is my Briggs & S. one installed.  It's somewhat near the horn as seen in the photo.
I just cut the fuel line and put it right on with the included clamps.

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1986 Honda VF500F  Street fighter!

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Re: So you bought a SYMBA - read these tips for happy ownership
« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2017, 07:26:01 PM »
Hi Pitty:

Thanks for the tips, I ordered the Petcock. Can you post a picture to see how you did the install? What smog items can I take off? Will it enhance performance? 

Many thanks!  ;)
I still have my smog items on, so hopefully someone will know which to take off.  A member by the name of BMWZenrider (Or similar), took off the smog stuff and showed a photo, I will try to find his thread for you and post it here.

As for the petcock.  First I drained the carburetor bowl, by unscrewing that screw. I took a pair of scissors and cut the fuel line in half in front of the clear fuel filter.  I put the two clamps onto the hose ends, pushed the petcock in both sides by hand (a little brute force needed), then I think I used pliers to secure the clamps.
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Re: So you bought a SYMBA - read these tips for happy ownership
« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2017, 07:37:52 PM »
This was the thread I thought had info about smog items:
http://symforum.com/index.php?topic=11939.msg37134#msg37134

I'm still looking.

**Edit, here is the thread that talks about it more and shows some photos/diagrams:
http://symforum.com/index.php?topic=1216.0
« Last Edit: May 26, 2017, 07:40:41 PM by HelloPitty »
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Re: So you bought a SYMBA - read these tips for happy ownership
« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2017, 08:01:47 AM »
Added #10 to original post:
10) Vibration can crack license plate.  Read about it here:
http://symforum.com/index.php?topic=67.0
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Re: So you bought a SYMBA - read these tips for happy ownership
« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2017, 04:09:37 PM »
Got the info. Thank you Pitty!
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Re: So you bought a SYMBA - read these tips for happy ownership
« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2017, 10:38:36 PM »
Got the info. Thank you Pitty!
You're welcome.
Not sure if you've taken off the stuff yet, but from what I've read it seems it didn't make that much difference.  You might as well keep it on.
Now having a manual petcock is crucial in my opinion.
2015 SYM Symba * 1981 Honda C70
1982 Honda CT110 * 2006 Vespa LX150
2008 Vespa GTS250 * 02/09 Honda Metropolitans