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petemoss

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Re: New Symba 100 owner
« Reply #30 on: April 03, 2017, 02:15:14 PM »
mbkd5, mine came in the big cardboard box as well  ;D. Good idea about changing the oil early, who knows what kind of stuff is in there when they shipped from the factory.
Putting a load on the engine helps to seat the rings, intermittent speeds is also good, no sustained high speed and no lugging it. All stuff that I learned when I had my diesel engine rebuilt on my 3 Ton flat deck.
I really wished that they came with a cartridge type filter on these bikes...... :-\
What kind of oil did you use for the break in and what oil ( Manufacture and weight) are you using it her now?
As far as carbs are concerned, yeah these little bikes have pretty sensitive carbs with tiny fuel jets. Keeping any crud out of the carb is just wise and a quick disassembling and cleaning should keep her running smoothly for years to come. I purchased a set of low speed jet ( kit) with different sizes off of fleabay, I may try to experiment with a few different sizes to see if it improves performance.
2015 Symba 100
2015 Suzuki 650 V-Strom
Some past rides.....
2015 Haley Lowrider
2007 Moto Guzzi California Vintage
2008 Moto Guzzi Norge
2011 Royal Enfield Classic 500
2012 Suzuki DL1000 V-Stom
2012 Harley Switchback converted to Trike
2006 Harley Streetglide
2014 Suzuki DR650 and much more

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Re: New Symba 100 owner
« Reply #31 on: April 04, 2017, 09:15:59 AM »
Petemoss:  I'm sure you probably read on this forum about disconnecting the fuel cannister tube.  If not, do a search for it.  Also, I'm sure you probably know you need 4T oil for the wet clutch.  I used Castrol 4T 10w40 non-synthetic for break-in.  Still using it.  I'm a little leary of synthetics as some people have said it causes seals to leak.  A good friend recently recommended that I try products from ARCH OIL:

http://www.archoil.com/

He uses their AR9100 oil additive (and their AR6200 fuel additive) and his van has 270K miles and purrs like a kitten.  He swears by the stuff so I'm gonna try some.  Their website says it's fine for wet clutches. I watched some You tubes about it. The stuff is endorsed by Jay leno for whatever that's worth!

Mine has 3400 miles and I feel like it's just now really gotten broken in as it seems to have better power now than it did at first. After break-in I'd like to know what happens with your jet changes.

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Re: New Symba 100 owner
« Reply #32 on: April 04, 2017, 12:28:09 PM »
mbkd5, I've already removed the fuel canister and all the anti-pollution crap on the bike.
4T oil, good to know, I will need to remember that. I ran Amsoil in all my previous bikes and in my Vstrom as well. I'll speak to the rep to see if it is recommended in this type of engine.
How is your chain holding up? I have read numerous reports of them wearing out early.
2015 Symba 100
2015 Suzuki 650 V-Strom
Some past rides.....
2015 Haley Lowrider
2007 Moto Guzzi California Vintage
2008 Moto Guzzi Norge
2011 Royal Enfield Classic 500
2012 Suzuki DL1000 V-Stom
2012 Harley Switchback converted to Trike
2006 Harley Streetglide
2014 Suzuki DR650 and much more

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« Reply #33 on: April 05, 2017, 09:09:42 AM »
LisaRae, I just reread your first post about going through 4 batteries and that one had low battery fluid in it. If this happens to all of your batteries then I would suspect that the voltage regulator is faulty and possibly overcharging the battery. Overcharging an automotive battery will cause the liquid to boil and evaporate eventually killing the batter. ☠️

Ah, you could be right. May need to get SYMBA to the doctor/dealer in Acton.

Re: your shifter issues - remove it from the spline, and move it "ahead" or "back" to suit your foot. When I got mine, as a newbie motorcyclist, I could NOT shift successfully - was tempted to throw in the towel...

My more experienced motorbiking friend suggested adjusting the shifter. [my foot has a very high instep and arch] I've forgotten which way I had to adjust it (there's a post on this forum, somewhere), but it made the impossible, possible. I only use the front part of the shifter, putting my toe under - to shift up into a higher gear.

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Re: New Symba 100 owner
« Reply #34 on: April 06, 2017, 08:14:07 AM »
The chain does seem to wear fast.  I just happened to be adjusting the chain yesterday.  I think this is the second or third time I have had to adjust it as it seems to stretch.  I can tell when it has stretched because it gets a little jerky when shifting, especially down-shifting. Supposed to be 10-20 mm play as recommended in the manual. Yesterday there was about an extra inch of play before I adjusted it.  The adjustment bolts now have about 1/2 of their threads left. 

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Re: New Symba 100 owner
« Reply #35 on: April 06, 2017, 09:03:47 AM »
Also, I plan on using the Archoil fuel additive, but Not the oil additive in my bike, even though it is supposedly ok for wet clutches.

I will however try both in my mowers and cars.

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Re: New Symba 100 owner
« Reply #36 on: April 06, 2017, 08:15:23 PM »



Re: your shifter issues - remove it from the spline, and move it "ahead" or "back" to suit your foot. When I got mine, as a newbie motorcyclist, I could NOT shift successfully

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Yes I may need to adjust the shift lever, I have thought about that. I'm away until next Thursday so hopefully I'll have some time to spend on the Symba and adjust a few things as well
2015 Symba 100
2015 Suzuki 650 V-Strom
Some past rides.....
2015 Haley Lowrider
2007 Moto Guzzi California Vintage
2008 Moto Guzzi Norge
2011 Royal Enfield Classic 500
2012 Suzuki DL1000 V-Stom
2012 Harley Switchback converted to Trike
2006 Harley Streetglide
2014 Suzuki DR650 and much more

petemoss

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Re: New Symba 100 owner
« Reply #37 on: April 06, 2017, 08:26:04 PM »
The chain does seem to wear fast.  I just happened to be adjusting the chain yesterday.  I think this is the second or third time I have had to adjust it as it seems to stretch.  I can tell when it has stretched because it gets a little jerky when shifting, especially down-shifting. Supposed to be 10-20 mm play as recommended in the manual. Yesterday there was about an extra inch of play before I adjusted it.  The adjustment bolts now have about 1/2 of their threads left.

Chains don't usually stretch but rather the links and rollers
As well as the sprockets start to wear making the chain appear to stretch. Anyway a good quality chain, if regularly cleaned, lubricated and properly adjusted should easily last 10,000 miles especially with such a low horsepower engine like on the Symba. I have read a lot of people on this forum complaining about the poor quality of the stock chain ( and some people had great luck and longevity), so it could be hit and miss as far as quality goes. Likely depends on the suplier at the time.
But binding links is usually caused by dirt, rust or wear. Removing the chain and clean it with solvent and letting it soak in a pail of used engine oil for a few days will revive it if it's not worn out too badly. We used to remove the chain off of our motorcycles in the fall and leave them soak in oil all winter long. The chains lasted for years.
It may be time to replace yours
2015 Symba 100
2015 Suzuki 650 V-Strom
Some past rides.....
2015 Haley Lowrider
2007 Moto Guzzi California Vintage
2008 Moto Guzzi Norge
2011 Royal Enfield Classic 500
2012 Suzuki DL1000 V-Stom
2012 Harley Switchback converted to Trike
2006 Harley Streetglide
2014 Suzuki DR650 and much more

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Re: New Symba 100 owner
« Reply #38 on: April 21, 2017, 08:26:38 AM »
Petemoss did you have your boxed Symba shipped to the US or are you in Canada?  Do you know if they have any more and will ship to the US?  I'm looking for a like new/or new Symba. 
Thanks,

Jeff

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Re: New Symba 100 owner
« Reply #39 on: April 21, 2017, 09:24:07 AM »
Hi Jeff I purchased it New in Canada from MC Motorsports Canada in Ontario. Speak to Mike Wells @ 1 (647) 968-8760
He direct shipped it to me here in Alberta. The shipping rate was quite reasonable and it got here in 4 days.
He may still have a couple of new units in stock. Tell him that you spoke to Peter from Fort McMuarry, Alberta. He will remember me.
Mike is the Canadian distributor for SYM.
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2015 Symba 100
2015 Suzuki 650 V-Strom
Some past rides.....
2015 Haley Lowrider
2007 Moto Guzzi California Vintage
2008 Moto Guzzi Norge
2011 Royal Enfield Classic 500
2012 Suzuki DL1000 V-Stom
2012 Harley Switchback converted to Trike
2006 Harley Streetglide
2014 Suzuki DR650 and much more

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Re: New Symba 100 owner
« Reply #40 on: April 21, 2017, 11:58:20 AM »
Hi Jeff I purchased it New in Canada from MC Motorsports Canada in Ontario. Speak to Mike Wells @ 1 (647) 968-8760
He direct shipped it to me here in Alberta. The shipping rate was quite reasonable and it got here in 4 days.
He may still have a couple of new units in stock. Tell him that you spoke to Peter from Fort McMuarry, Alberta. He will remember me.
Mike is the Canadian distributor for SYM.



I know of one that's assembled and "ready to ride" at OLD VINTAGE CRANKS in Acton, ON. [You'd be saving me from temptation i.e making the choice to trade up from a 2010 to a 2015!!] Here's their website: http://www.uralontario.ca/
Best,
LisaRae
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petemoss

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Re: New Symba 100 owner
« Reply #41 on: April 21, 2017, 12:07:01 PM »
LOL, that's like me and music stores. Too many new shiny guitars hanging on the wall in our local music store. It's hard to walk by and not want to take one home with me.
How many miles do you now have on yours LisaRae? Are you still happy with it?
2015 Symba 100
2015 Suzuki 650 V-Strom
Some past rides.....
2015 Haley Lowrider
2007 Moto Guzzi California Vintage
2008 Moto Guzzi Norge
2011 Royal Enfield Classic 500
2012 Suzuki DL1000 V-Stom
2012 Harley Switchback converted to Trike
2006 Harley Streetglide
2014 Suzuki DR650 and much more

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« Reply #42 on: April 21, 2017, 01:45:28 PM »
I'm just around 17,500 km, I think... I added heated hand-grips in March, and wish I'd done so YEARS ago, seeing as I try to ride through mid-December, here in sw Ontario.

SYMBA is the best! Hope you get your paperwork settled soon!

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Re: New Symba 100 owner
« Reply #43 on: April 21, 2017, 02:41:36 PM »
Just got word from the government transportation dept, my Symba should be plated next week  :)  finally
I have had heated grips on my previous bikes and intending on installing a set on my Vstrom.
Never thought about installing some on the Symba ( any issues with the extra current draw?). I also have a heated vest for those cooler rides, maybe have to try it out on the Symba. May need to install a windshield like HelloPitty has.
Also have a lockable trunk that I'm going to install on the back rack.
2015 Symba 100
2015 Suzuki 650 V-Strom
Some past rides.....
2015 Haley Lowrider
2007 Moto Guzzi California Vintage
2008 Moto Guzzi Norge
2011 Royal Enfield Classic 500
2012 Suzuki DL1000 V-Stom
2012 Harley Switchback converted to Trike
2006 Harley Streetglide
2014 Suzuki DR650 and much more

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Re: New Symba 100 owner
« Reply #44 on: April 21, 2017, 03:23:38 PM »
Congrats on your new Symba purchase Pete! I didn't know you just ordered one, the way you responded to my questions I thought you've owned a Symba for years, lol. You're very knowledgeable about motorcycles though and I'm still learning. My Symba is actually my first 2 wheeler I've ever owned; with an engine attached to it at least. I read about how you were going to add a windshield and a few other customizations. Check out the custom exhaust pipe I use to have on mines when I first bought it from the previous owner if interested! Enjoy your new ride!  ;D

Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rhi4WjkI8w